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Subject: Re: If programs are only IM strength, why bother to play Kramnik??

Author: Jeroen van Dorp

Date: 16:06:00 05/12/01

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On May 12, 2001 at 10:48:20, Chris Carson wrote:

>The SSDF is a valid and reliable measure of program strength on the
>hardware measured for tournament play against humans and other
>programs.
>
>The top programs have proven to perform above 2500 (2500 is the minimum
>for GM strength).  Some of the programs have performances above 2600
>and DJ6 has a 2702 performance against the top GM's (finished 50%
>score).


Hi Chris,

Are you sure SSDF claims SSDF-ratings are exactly comparable with Elo-ratings?
As long as you have no humans in the rating pool, you cannot decide on the
starting (Elo)point for determining the rating - as you want to compare with
humans, after all.

More decisive I think are indeed the results of chess programs participating in
tournaments and competition until now, scoring *very well* between solid IM's
*and* IGM's.

Maybe - just maybe- if all chess players would become more accustomed to
computer participants in their tournaments, results could go down, because of
the diminishing "surprise" factor- so to say.

BTW as human GM's are drawed by weaker players now and then, I think the same
goes for computer programs. I didn't mean to react on this discussion with the
gandalf game I posted somewhere else on this board - I hadn't read this thread -
but as you can see even a weakie like me has some luck, sometimes.

Sometimes. Not often :))

There's much discussion about the desirability of computers in human
tournaments, and there are a lot of arguments pro and con, but I'm very
interested in regular participation to really validate the results until now.
I also think we might learn a lot from these games, "programming-wise".

J.



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