Author: william penn
Date: 17:09:40 05/12/01
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On May 12, 2001 at 18:39:05, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On May 12, 2001 at 17:37:09, william penn wrote: > >>On May 12, 2001 at 16:28:51, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:23:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>On May 12, 2001 at 16:11:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>In my opinion no program can - on tournament level 40/120 - get more than 2300 >>>>>ELO against solid human players. The shorter the time control the higher the >>>>>perfomance of the computer programs. And by the way, the SSDF list is at least >>>>>about 200-300 ELO too high. >>>>>Kurt >>>> >>>>Then how did DJ6 score 2703 against Human Gm's??? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>> >>>Study the games, and you will not much see of what I understand about soldid >>>playing. As already mentioned earlier I still get about 30 % against the >>>monsters without using any anti computer strategy. And this should simply not be >>>possible for a player with about 2000 ELO? >>> >>>Regards >> >> >> Hi Kurt >> >> Can you tell me why you believe programs to only be 2300 elo inspite of the >>2500+ results ? Do you Personally know 2300 players that do 50% or more against >>the top programs?, and if so can you post some games? Lastly if you believe that >>programs are only 2300elo why do you refer to them as "monsters"?. > >Hi William >Well, I must admit that I have - to bring up a hot discussion - somewhat >exaggerated. But it is still my deepest conviction that no chess program has >more than 2500 ELO. And furthermore there are some other points why I am >convinced that the programs are less strong than rated. Look at my answer to >Jonas Cohonas. >Regards >Kurt Originally you said not more than 2300 was that a typo? If you meant 2500, then we are not to much in disagreement although I would think they are closer to 2600 on the very best hardware.
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