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Subject: Re: Why won't Fritz play bxc6 instead of Rxc6 in Deep Blue Game 6

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:38:21 05/12/01

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On May 12, 2001 at 10:54:42, Joshua Lee wrote:

>>>The fact that deep blue played a different move does not prove nothing.
>>>Both Rxc6 and bxc6 are losing moves and different extensions can encourage a
>>>program to play a different move.
>>>
>>>We do not have the logfile of deep blue from these games so we can know nothing
>>>about the line that Deep blue saw and if it changed it's mind from Rxc6 to bxc6
>>>so it seem that using this position to compare between the first Deep Blue and
>>>the commercial programs is useless.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>That's why I asked.  First, DB1 had several shortcomings that were addressed
>>in the new chip used in DB2.  Second we had no output from DB1 as you said,
>>so there is no way to know what it saw and what the eval was (of course, for
>>DB2 it is not easy to know what it saw either since it can not display all
>>(or even most) of the PVs.
>
>
>This Comes close to giving me an answer, I don't understand how exactly Deep
>Blue 1 goes for the so called worse move but Fritz goes for the other even if
>you let it think to the same amount of nodes. If there were bugs in both Deep
>Blue 1, and Deep Thought how is it possible to compare comercial software? This
>i believe is needed as well as a variable Eval to furthur improve. My other
>guess at comparing the programs to Deep Thought or Blue is to find a point in
>several different games where it made the mistake and see how long it takes
>Crafty, Hiarcs, Fritz etc. I think this would be interesting to know however
>some positions are way too deep for my single 800mhz i am beginning to think i
>need a beowolf :)


The first test is to let fritz search both moves to the same depth to compare
the scores.  It might be that they are _very_ close after a bit...



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