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Subject: Re: Interesting position

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 07:32:09 05/13/01

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On May 13, 2001 at 10:02:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 13, 2001 at 09:24:35, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2001 at 09:13:02, Andrew Williams wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>Here's a position from a blitz game between ChesterX and PostModernist on ICC.
>>>PM is too hasty here, playing 49... Rxb3  On my Athlon 1200 it takes PM
>>>34 seconds to choose g6 instead. However, this tranlates to more than two
>>>minutes on the PIII 450 on which the game was played. How long does it take
>>>other programs to avoid Rxb3? Please state hardware.
>>>
>>Bringer 1.8 on Athlon 1333 :
>>
>>0:00:00.1  ( 5/14)      19047   1.12  b8xb3  f3xh5  g7-g6  h5xg6  g3xg6
>>0:00:00.2  ( 6/17)      67407   0.97  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-f8  f5-f2
>>0:00:00.7  ( 7/18)     180359   1.35  b8xb3  f3xc6  b3xc3  c6-d5  f7-f8
>>0:00:01.3  ( 8/23)     362162   0.95  b8xb3  f3xh5
>>0:00:02.0  ( 8/23)     495185   0.89  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-e7  d2-h2  d8-g8  f5-g5
>>0:00:04.4  ( 9/25)    1094516   0.84  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-f8  h5-f3
>
>
>This is a case of evaluation knowledge helping out.  THe above move ends
>up much worse than this....
>
True - if I disable "SEE in QSearch" I get

0:00:00.1  ( 4/13)      17995   1.05  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-e7  d1-g1
0:00:00.2  ( 5/14)      55407   1.06  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-g8  f5-e6  g8-h8
0:00:00.3  ( 6/17)     124155   0.97  b8xb3  f3xh5  f7-f8  f5-f2
0:00:01.3  ( 7/18)     440499   1.23  b8xb3  f3xc6  b3xc3
0:00:02.6  ( 8/21)     988836   0.42  b8xb3  d1-g1
0:00:03.5  ( 8/22)    1297530  -0.13  g7-g6
0:00:08.8  ( 9/23)    3227558   0.67  g7-g6
0:00:09.8  ( 9/23)    3765624   0.89  g7-g6  f5-f4
0:00:11.6  (10/25)    4406650   0.93  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3
0:00:15.2  (11/32)    5524729   1.12  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2xd6
0:00:18.7  (12/32)    7199627   1.14  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3
0:00:30.3  (13/37)   11823534   1.12  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2-d3
d6-d5  h1-g2  f7-e6  d1-e1  e6-d6  e1-d1

So this would have been a little faster here and the score for Rxb3 must have
been < 0.13 at ply 8 .

Note : I am not the programmer of the engine so I don't really know what I am
talking about  :-) .

I only know that disabling "SEE in Q-Search" is a safer setting for Bringer  but
it's usually slower in most testpositions and gives a worse branching factor
overall.

pete
>
>
>
>>0:00:05.3  ( 9/27)    1546776   0.85  g7-g6
>>0:00:06.2  (10/27)    1721445   0.86  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  f3xc6
>>b3xc3  h1-g2  f7-e6  c6-b5
>>0:00:11.6  (11/29)    3327446   1.12  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  f3xc6
>>0:00:15.1  (12/31)    4579675   1.20  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2-d3
>>d6-d5
>>0:00:22.2  (13/33)    6752077   1.36  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2-d3
>>d6-d5  c4xd5  c5-c4  d3-e3  c6xd5  d1-e1  d8-b8
>>0:00:33.7  (14/39)   10626823   1.21  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2-d3
>>d6-d5  c4xd5  c5-c4  d3-e3  c6xd5  d1-e1  d8-b8  e3-e7  f7-g8
>>0:01:24.5  (15/43)   27815802   1.15  g7-g6  f5-f4  g3xf4  e3xf4  b8xb3  d2-d3
>>d6-d5



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