Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 10:38:24 05/13/01
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On May 13, 2001 at 10:25:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On May 13, 2001 at 03:06:32, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
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>>I think you overestimate widely the financial value of WCCC+WMCCC. Compared to
>>the publicity of the event, my opinion is that it is peanuts. Having these
>>titles is nice, and I'm not trying to belittle the merits of the owner of these
>>titles, but the financial reality is something else...
>
>
>I think the financial reality is better than you speculate. Why? Because
>I have watched the "dirty tricks" used over the years in WMCCC events to
>win at all costs...
>
>And when you factor that in vs a potential loss to (say) deep fritz, then yes,
>the titles probably mean a lot.
Well it looks like the news today give me a point, somehow.
If being the World Champion is so interesting financially, then why is Millenium
giving up, when it is selling the World Champion program?
It doesn't fit, does it?
Others companies, which are not selling a World Champion program, are doing
well, while Millenium gives up and let the World Champion programmer fly away.
Isn't it telling you something really interesting about the commercial value of
owning TWO World Titles simultaneously?
>>On the other hand, if you do not believe in the chances of your program, then of
>>course you don't go for it...
>>
>>But Ossi Weiner says that he is not forbidding the SSDF to list Shredder
>>anymore. So if you are ready to take the risk of not being listed in first
>>position by the SSDF, which is a little bit like taking the risk of breaking the
>>"World Champion" image, then why not play against Deep Fritz, which even in the
>>worst case (losing) is rewarded by worldwide publicity? You'll be seen as
>>second-best program in the world for millions of people, instead of being seen
>>as strongest program for a handful of people. And probably million of people
>>will not remember if you were beaten or not, will simply remember that Shredder
>>has played, that Shredder is at the very top, and will grab the Shredder package
>>as soon as they see it at the supermarket, throwing it without even looking at
>>the price in their caddies.
>>
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>>I fail to understand the logic behind Weiner's reasonning.
>
>Me too. I was simply "speculating" as I really don't see any other reason
>except for either (a) what I gave above or (b) I am strongly pissed about
>the qualifier concept when my program owns both ICCA titles, and I am not
>about to stoop so low as to admit that we need a qualifier event to pick the
>challenger for Kramnik.
And you really believed in this argument? :)
>Other than those two, I can't imagine why this happened...
Knowing that Millenium is giving up, knowing that Weiner KNEW it was going out
of business when BGN contacted him, now we can imagine what happened...
Yesterday I said we were missing an important part of the puzzle, and today I
think we have it.
Christophe
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