Author: Uri Blass
Date: 11:40:47 05/13/01
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On May 13, 2001 at 14:29:01, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On May 13, 2001 at 06:55:49, Sune Larsson wrote: > >>On May 13, 2001 at 02:48:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>Yesterday there was a hot discussion abouth the strenght of chess computers. I >>>said that no program has more than 2500 ELO and that "weaker" players can fight >>>with good chances to draw and that I could not understand why the GM's do so >>>hard against the computers. On the other hand I tried to find some explanation >>>for that. Below now my last ten games, four times a loss and six times a draw, >>>that means a score of 30 percent. >>> >>>ChessBase7 says: >>> >>>Average rating Utzinger = 1978 ELO (performance = 2341 ELO) >>>Average rating computers = 2490 ELO (performance = 2127 ELO) >> >>>snip >> >>Hello Kurt, >> >>thanks for your games! I found them very interesting and very well worth >>a closer look. Some reflections: >> >>I think you're showing a solid play that actually lies a couple of hundred >>points above your present rating. Furthermore 40 moves in 40' is 3 times >>faster than traditional tournament level. From my own experience I know >>that it's sometimes very hard to hold your game together in the last 10-15 >>moves before the first time control. The programs punish you for every >>slight mistake! You show a nice opening knowledge with positional play as >>white and a preference for putting your pawns on the white squares as black - >>Caro Kann-French-Dutch. Overall you have a good positional understanding, >>therebye neutralizing tactical attempts from the programs. The endgame looks >>okey and you're familiar with the famous art of doing nothing...;) >> >>Alltogether this gives me the impression of a player worth more than ELO 1978. >>Unless your tactics sucks bigtime of course...;) Haven't seen anything of that >>in these 10 games though. >> >>In some games I noticed a tendency for you to swap pieces /after good openings/, >>in an attempt to reduce the pressure /and possibly out of respect for the >>opponent/, which in fact created problems for you. >> >>It's hard to evaluate the strength of chess programs, according to human >>formulas, since they can alter between 1700-2700, depending on the actual >>position on the board. All the comp-comp testing might also contribute >>to the development of a certain kind of computer playing style. For me, that >>makes the experiments of CS Tal, Crafty, Rebel and Gambit Tiger particularly >>interesting, since they also /or mostly?!/ focus on human opponents. >> >>Sune > >Hello Sune > >Very well commented. Unfortunately it is hardly possible to win for a player of >my strength against the best programs at time control 40/40'. For me it is >always a good training to play such matches. And it must also be mentioned that >there are two programs that only by way of exception allow me to draw: These two >are: Hiarcs732 and MChessPro. >Regards >Kurt I am interested to know what is your performance in the last 10 games that you played against humans and when did you play these games. Uri
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