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Subject: Re: One mate to solve...

Author: leonid

Date: 10:50:51 05/14/01

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On May 14, 2001 at 12:57:07, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On May 14, 2001 at 08:47:07, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hi, Heiner!
>>
>>This time one personal demand. Can you send me your mate solver? I tried two
>>times to do this by going into your site but something I did in a wrong way.
>>
>>I use Windows ME. If you have somewhere executive file, it will be the best. If
>>whatever you will need to find in my program, you will just ask and my response
>>will be instant.
>
>I myself do not offer any executables.  Windows executables are not even
>constructible for me.  But Dann Corbit has made a WIN32 executable,
>and offers all my sources, together with the EXE as
>   ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chest/CHEST319.ZIP (674k)
>If you want just the EXE (and the READMEs):
>   ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chest/chest319.exe  (268k)
>   ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chest/README_LONG    (30k)
>   ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chest/README_QUICK
>   ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/chest/README


Thanks, Heiner! Before I download not from this sources. I went directly to your
site and can be that I download something for different system.


>You should be able to download the above URLs with any browser or ftp program.
>I suspect that Windows ME does happily execute WIN32 executables, so the
>exe should be directly usable for you.

Windows Me is not that simple to use. Or I myself screw somehow my Windows ME,
or it is very prone to instability. It hung all the time. Last time just before
I came here.


>Chest is a console application.  For usage and examples please read README_LONG.
>
>>Now I am in changing few thing in my mate solver and for this I need some
>>excellent mate solver as reference. It is not that simple to find as somebody
>>could imagine. Before I had the impression that Genius 2 could do the work but
>>later found that its moves number is fixed by 99 limit. The same is true for
>>other best chess programs and even, to my susprise, for mate solver Mate 2.0.
>>Mate 2.0 (he is in the package with Hiarcs program) do not permit to indicate
>>directly number of moves that you would like for him to see. Its number of moves
>>is once again limited to 99. He do not indicate the time when he think.
>>It could be that I don't know how to use it. Hiarcs is not very talkative as
>>programe in general. The best in its openess, between all program that I ever
>>used, is Rebel. If I will one day end my chess program then I will try to make
>>everything in my program as clear and accessible as this program did.

>Is the limit 99
>(a) for the number of legal moves in a (single) position, or
>(b) for the depth of the search?

As far as I could understant it is limit for legal number of moves that initial
position contain. As I could see, when initial position had 54 moves then this
number was exactly 54. But when I asked for solving  position that have initial
moves 112 (just example), then number was indicated as 99. In the same time
program indicate how many from those initial moves it already have seen.



>If (a): ok, Chest does better (222)

I still must put my numbers as far. For now it is only 200.

>If (b): sorry, Chest is limited even lower (30, with recompile: 63)

If you speak about maximum number of moves to see, then you have one more
advantange. Mine can go as far as 13. This is why all my positions never goes
beyond 13 moves. Probably, I even will not change this limit very soon. My goal
is to go to my chess part as soon, as I will find some way to speed my code when
working with mate solver. Only when efficency of my chess part will reach mate
solver code, then it will have sense to extend those 13 moves. For now my chess
part is deadly slow. Its brute force can only slightly overrun other programs in
10 plys search. In mate solver (forgetting about your that is wonderful
exception) speed of mine for mate can go easely between 10 and 100 times beyond
every best programs speed. I must absolutly recuperate part of it  into my chess
playing part. Mate solver is the best spot to see how much real speed you can
obtain but not the first place to use it. I hope that you will do the same. You
have bright chances to succeed. When you will do this, we will have even more
things in commune to speak about.

Cheers,
Leonid.

>Cheers,
>Heiner



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