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Subject: Re: Is a third native concept important, questions for a new poll ?

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 11:31:04 05/16/01

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On May 16, 2001 at 14:07:51, José Carlos wrote:

>[snip]
>
>>>So if I want to write my own protocol for my engine, I can't? Just
>>>because you say so?
>>
>>Yes, please make this !
>
>  Actually I did it some time ago. Before I knew there were something called
>winboard, I wrote a nice GUI in Visual Basic. This was even before writing the
>engine!
>  When it was near to be finished, I discovered CCC, Winboard, etc...
>  Imagine the rest... I discarded my GUI and wrote Averno for winboard.
>  To be true, my GUI had a nice looking, but sucked in protocol :(
>
>[snip]
>
>>Hm, I understand this but we have different GUIs in the past. Now people have
>>more fun on standards (protocol standards).
>>
>>Pax Chess, Chenard (very old free amateur programs) are not compatible to
>>WinBoard. I read more message about Averno compare to Pax Chess and Chenard.
>
>  Exactly! Without noticing, you got my point. Chenard and Pax are less known
>than Averno. So, it's up to the authors to join the most popular GUI, or to
>stick with their favourite. And up to the users to go for their favourites
>programs/GUI's.
>  You know, I really do love old Comet A90 DOS version. I've played much more
>games with it than with wb versions. Nothing bad with wb versions; simply I
>prefer A90 DOS. It's my choice as a user. If every engine worked only under a
>common GUI, I wouldn't have this choice.
>
>  [snip]
>
>>>>So I have interest to powerd UCI because the GUI from Stefan is very good.
>>>
>>>  Again, don't forget there does not exist a free GUI that supports UCI. UCI
>>>free engines are useless for me, as I don't want to buy Shredder. Winboard _is
>>>free_ (protocol and GUI).
>>
>>Try UCI, I think we can send the GUI if you have interest to make an UCI Engine.
>
>  I'm afraid you didn't get my point here. I was speaking from the _user_ point
>of view. I know as a programmer I can have some priviledges, but note that I
>have very little time for Averno, and I want to spend it doing something that
>_everyone_ can enjoy. Having myself the UCI GUI for free is not enough if 'my
>users' don't have it. This is an important point.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  José C.
>
>>>>Best
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>  José C.

Hi Jose,

VB GUI, great !
I learn at the moment VB 6.0, I need this for Excel.
I think a GUI in VB is not easy.

UCI GUI and free.
Every programmer can make this, the protocol is free !

The Shredder GUI is not free and this is good, because we will for sell the
strong UCI engines, because the programmers can get a little bit ...

Best
Frank



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