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Subject: Re: LG 2000 speed , was : One mate to solve...

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 12:41:29 05/18/01

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On May 17, 2001 at 18:03:58, Vincent Lejeune wrote:


>Little goliath speed above 2000 Knodes/sec in the first seconds
>
>2R5/8/8/8/7p/1k2q3/6P1/5Q1K b - - 0 1
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>Analysis by lg2000v3:
>
>70...Qe4 71.Qb5+ Ka2 72.Rc3
>  +-  (7.08)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  33kN
>70...Qe4 71.Qc1 Ka2 72.Rc4 Qe7
>  +-  (7.08)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  33kN
>70...Qe4 71.Qc1 Ka2 72.Rc4 Qe7
>  +-  (7.08)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  106kN
>70...Qe4 71.Qc1 Ka4 72.Rc4+ Qxc4 73.Qxc4+ Ka5 74.Qxh4
>  +-  (12.88)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  106kN
>70...Kb2
>  +-  (12.75)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  106kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qa7 72.Rc2+ Ka3 73.Qa1+ Kb3 74.Rb2+ Kc3 75.Qxa7 Kxb2
>  +-  (9.67)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  106kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qa7 72.Rc2+ Ka3 73.Qa1+ Kb3 74.Rb2+ Kc3 75.Qxa7 Kxb2
>  +-  (9.67)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  883kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe5 72.Qc1+ Kb3 73.Qb1+
>  +-  (14.65)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  883kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe5 72.Qc1+ Kb3 73.Qb1+

Is it just me, or is there something funny going on in the following
timing vs kN:

>  +-  (14.65)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  1572kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe4 72.Qc1+ Ka2 73.Rb8 Qb7 74.Qc4+ Ka3 75.Rxb7
>  +-  (15.61)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  1572kN

At least a full second more, i.e. at least double the time,
but no change in kN-count?

>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe4 72.Qc1+ Ka2 73.Rb8 Qb7 74.Qc4+ Ka3 75.Rxb7
>  +-  (15.61)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  4042kN

More than doubled the count, but the time unchanged?

>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe4 72.Qc1+ Kb3 73.Rc3+ Kb4 74.Qa3+ Kb5 75.Rc5+ Kb6 76.Qa5+ Kb7
>77.Rc7+ Kb8 78.Qa7#
>  +-  (#8)   Depth: 10   00:00:05  4042kN

More than doubled the time, but the count unchanged?
and so on...
Do I misinterpret the numbers?

>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe4 72.Qc1+ Kb3 73.Rc3+ Kb4 74.Qa3+ Kb5 75.Rc5+ Kb6 76.Qa5+ Kb7
>77.Rc7+ Kb8 78.Qa7#
>  +-  (#8)   Depth: 11   00:00:12  25116kN
>70...Kb2 71.Qd1 Qe4 72.Qc1+ Kb3 73.Rc3+ Kb4 74.Qa3+ Kb5 75.Rc5+ Kb6 76.Qa5+ Kb7
>77.Rc7+
>  +-  (#8)   Depth: 11   00:00:17  25116kN
>
>(Vinvin,  18.05.2001)
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>On May 16, 2001 at 07:56:42, leonid wrote:
>
>>On May 16, 2001 at 03:01:45, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2001 at 21:27:53, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2001 at 17:50:26, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 15, 2001 at 17:46:55, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 15, 2001 at 06:30:34, leonid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you would like to solve one simple mate then you have one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]1qbBBbq1/1Q5r/R2Nq1P1/2Q1N1n1/KQ2q1rk/2Q1N1n1/R2Nq1P1/1Q5r w - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Leonid
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My hardware is Celeron@875 Mhz !!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I found Goliath 2000 v2.8 a very very good mate finder !
>>>>>>is there a more recent version of Goliath ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Analysis by Little Goliath 2000 v2.8:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.Qxh7+ Qxh7 2.Ndf5+ Kh5 3.Nxg3+ Kh4 4.Qxh1+ Kxg3 5.N3xg4+ Q4d3 6.Rxe6 Qxb4+
>>>>>>7.Q5xb4 Qxh1 8.Nxd3
>>>>>>  +-  (16.90)   Depth: 6   00:00:22  12540kN
>>>>>>1.Qxh7+ Qxh7 2.Nef5+ Kh5 3.Nxg3+ Rxg3 4.Qxh1+ Rh3 5.Qcxh3+ Nxh3 6.g4+ Q6xg4
>>>>>>7.gxh7+
>>>>>>  +-  (18.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:29  12540kN
>>>>>>1.Nef5+
>>>>>>  +-  (18.11)   Depth: 6   00:00:34  12540kN
>>>>>>1.Nef5+ Kh5 2.Nxg3+ Rxg3 3.Qxh1+ Rh3 4.Qcxh3+ Qxh3 5.gxh7+ Qeg6 6.hxg8Q Qxe8+
>>>>>>7.Nxe8
>>>>>>  +-  (33.25)   Depth: 6   00:00:56  12540kN
>>>>>>1.Nef5+ Kh5 2.Nxg3+ Rxg3 3.Qxh1+ Rh3 4.Qcxh3+ Qxh3 5.gxh7+ Qeg6 6.hxg8Q Qxe8+
>>>>>>7.Nxe8
>>>>>>  +-  (33.25)   Depth: 7   00:01:02  51270kN

The above step is quite funny, again.

Just curious.
Heiner


>>>>>>1.Nef5+ Kh5 2.Qxh7+ Qxh7 3.Nxg3+ Rxg3 4.Qxh1+ Rh3 5.Qhxh3+ Qxh3 6.gxh7+ Nf7
>>>>>>7.h8Q+ Bh6 8.Bxf7+ Qg6 9.Bxg6#
>>>>>>  +-  (#9)   Depth: 7   00:01:13  51270kN
>>>>
>>>>Do I understand correctly time? It is 73 seconds? Then NPS is 702 knps, that is
>>>>very high even for selective search. Mine selective for the same position was
>>>>282 knps. Computer 600Mhz.
>>>>
>>>>Do come Goliath with graphics, or it is just engin like Mate 2.0 ? Do we have
>>>>this solver for DOS or for Windows, or for both?
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, goliath compute at speed above 1.2 Mnodes/s sometimes.
>>
>>Since this engin use hash, this 1.2 Mnps could be already some 1.5 Mnps without
>>hash. Mine never went so far in selective.
>>
>>
>>>It's a winboard engine, I use it under chessbase interface with the winboard
>>>adaptator.
>>>
>>>You can find several version here : http://www.borgstaedt.de/
>>>follow the download link...
>>
>>Thanks!



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