Author: Graham Laight
Date: 03:00:19 05/20/01
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On May 19, 2001 at 23:48:48, Christophe Theron wrote: >On May 19, 2001 at 23:37:31, Ratko V Tomic wrote: > >>>I'm extremely surprised that my creature managed to survive more >>> than 30 moves, given a 300 times speed handicap. >> >>The flip side is that the current programs running at some >>future machines at 300 GHz won't be able to crush the current >>programs on 1 GHz any more convincingly (in terms of how >>many moves the slower machine can hang on) than what happened >>in this matchup. >> >>This is the same effect that many players have experienced >>when upgrading their hardware to 2-3 times faster one and >>then being disapponted, after all the expense and hopes, >>when they can't even notice any difference in the perceived >>program strength (aginst humans). > > > >You are absolutely right. > >I think we are already beginning to experience the effects of dimishing returns >in chess on current hardware at long time controls. > > > > Christophe I have experienced this myself - having just upgraded from a 200 Mhz PC to an 800 Mhz one. In this situation, the first programmer to successfully use one or more of the many AI techniques available to automatically generate knowledge, and select the right knowledge for the given positions, is going to be richly rewarded. This is the 1st time in chess computer history that: 1. Brute force / selective search is providing such rapidly diminishing returns 2. The field of AI is so fertile with such a rich diversity of well investigated techniques - for most of which good tools can be bought "off the shelf" The road to riches in this sport is becoming very clear! -g
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