Author: stuart taylor
Date: 18:36:26 05/21/01
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On May 21, 2001 at 20:57:12, Jason Williamson wrote: >On May 21, 2001 at 17:43:08, william penn wrote: > >>On May 21, 2001 at 17:33:01, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On May 21, 2001 at 17:16:31, william penn wrote: >>> >>>>On May 21, 2001 at 16:12:11, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>>>cm 8000 is getting clobbered day in and day out! as i remeber (remind me if i'm >>>>>wrong) cm 6000 more than held its own against fritz5.32 junior 5 and nimzo 7.32. >>>>>and was in fact rated a point or 2 higher than either if them. >>>>> >>>>>this one is behaving more like a vintage cm 3000 (performance wise) >>>>> >>>>>a real sheep in wolf's clothing i must say >>>>> >>>>>rajen >>>> >>>> All those people who were looking for evidence for my statement that 6555 is >>>>stronger than 8000, they seem to have suddenly vanished. lol >>> >>>Wouldn't it be funny, if the binary were -- for all intents and purposes -- >>>identical? >>> >>>Supposing there *is* a 50 ELO difference between the two programs... >>>It is almost impossible to prove it. >>> >>>Every swing in fortune in a SSDF set brings oohs and aahs of either doom and >>>destruction or meteoric rise if it should be shifted to one opponent or the >>>other. >>> >>>I suspect it would be good to wait until the whole set is in. >> >> >> i don't know mr. corbitt, it seems that a little common sense along with basic >>observation and experience using cm8000 as oppose to cm60000 shows the former to >>be much weaker. i don't think that i have seen a good cm8000 result since it has >>been released. i have played many games against 6000 and have yet to win a >>single game, i have already beaten 8000 twice and drew it once. i am not out to >>defame the program author at all, i have always been a fan of cm . if i state >>what i believe to be the truth, based on observation and experience, if this is >>seen as a smear on someone's program , then so be it. > > >02-04-01 Commerical Closed 2001 > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 >1 Chessmaster 8000 xxxx * 0 1 1 1 1 4.0/5 >2 Junior 6.0 2851 -248 1 * 0 0 1 1 3.0/5 6.50 >3 Deep Fritz 2776 -158 0 1 * ½ ½ 1 3.0/5 6.00 >4 Shredder 4 xxxx 0 1 ½ * ½ ½ 2.5/5 >5 Nimzo 8 2709 -301 0 0 ½ ½ * ½ 1.5/5 >6 Hiarcs 7.32 2767 -466 0 0 0 ½ ½ * 1.0/5 > >Average elo: 2583 <=> Category: 14 >gm = 2.65 m = 1.65 > >02-18-01 Tournament CMT blitz 2001 > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > 1 little goliath 2603 +1 -1 +1 -1 -1 +0 -1 +1 -1 -1 9.0/10 > 8 32 15 11 3 2 10 17 7 28 > 2 Chessmaster 8000 2743 -1 +1 +1 -1 +1 -1 -0 -½ +1 -1 8.5/10 > 19 12 5 16 10 1 3 11 13 30 > 3 gromit 2532 -1 +½ +1 -1 +0 -1 +1 -1 +0 +1 7.5/10 > 24 30 6 15 1 17 2 22 4 18 > 4 crafty 2650 +0 -0 -1 +1 -1 +1 -½ +1 -1 +1 7.5/10 > 32 27 19 29 9 14 12 10 3 6 > 5 zchess 2457 -1 +1 -0 +0 -1 +0 -1 +1 -1 -1 7.0/10 > 20 17 2 10 26 12 23 29 18 19 > 6 bionic 2472 -½ +1 -0 +0 +1 -1 +1 -1 +1 -0 6.5/10 > 14 19 3 13 28 16 11 20 12 4 > 7 comet 2535 -1 +1 +0 -1 +1 -0 +1 -1 +0 +½ 6.5/10 > 21 22 11 28 13 10 15 27 1 9 > 8 arasan 2399 -0 +1 -1 +½ -½ +1 -½ +0 -1 +1 6.5/10 > 1 20 29 12 21 11 13 16 15 24 > 9 inmichess 2334 +0 -0 +1 -1 +0 -1 +1 -1 +1 -½ 6.5/10 > 15 28 31 32 4 29 17 21 19 7 > 10 tcb 2526 +1 -1 +1 -1 -0 +1 +0 -0 -1 -0 6.0/10 > 31 23 16 5 2 7 1 4 14 21 > 11 exchess -1 +1 -1 +0 +½ -0 -0 +½ -1 +1 6.0/10 > 13 18 7 1 17 8 6 2 23 31 > 12 amy 2534 +1 -0 +1 -½ +½ -1 +½ +1 -0 -½ 6.0/10 > 25 2 27 8 15 5 4 24 6 13 > 13 yace 2705 +0 -1 +1 -1 -0 +1 +½ -1 -0 +½ 6.0/10 > 11 25 32 6 7 22 8 28 2 12 > 14 phalanx 2507 +½ -0 +½ -1 +1 -0 +1 -1 +0 +1 6.0/10 > 6 15 21 23 16 4 22 25 10 27 > 15 anmon 2558 -1 +1 -0 +0 -½ +1 -0 +1 +0 +1 5.5/10 > 9 14 1 3 12 21 7 26 8 25 > 16 Lambchop 2381 -1 +1 -0 +0 -0 +0 -0 -1 +1 +1 5.0/10 > 18 24 10 2 14 6 20 8 26 29 > 17 bringer 2443 +1 -0 -1 +1 -½ +0 -0 -0 +½ +1 5.0/10 > 26 5 30 22 11 3 9 1 24 32 > 18 ant 2373 +0 -0 +1 -0 +1 -1 -1 +1 +0 -0 5.0/10 > 16 11 20 25 32 24 26 31 5 3 > 19 rival 2062 +0 -0 +0 -1 +1 -½ +1 -1 -0 +0 4.5/10 > 2 6 4 31 29 27 21 32 9 5 > 20 fortress 2264 +0 -0 -0 +0 -1 +1 +1 +0 +1 -½ 4.5/10 > 5 8 18 24 31 30 16 6 22 26 > 21 sjeng 2153 +0 -½ -½ +1 +½ -0 -0 +0 -½ +1 4.0/10 > 7 26 14 30 8 15 19 9 25 10 > 22 dragon 2291 +1 -0 +1 -0 +1 -0 -0 +0 -0 +1 4.0/10 > 27 7 28 17 25 13 14 3 20 23 > 23 nejmet 2489 -1 +0 -0 +0 +1 -1 +0 -1 +0 -0 4.0/10 > 29 10 26 14 27 28 5 30 11 22 > 24 amyan 2284 +0 -0 +0 -1 -1 +0 +1 -0 -½ -0 3.5/10 > 3 16 25 20 30 18 28 12 17 8 > 25 gnuchess 2410 -0 +0 -1 +1 -0 +0 -1 +0 +½ -0 3.5/10 > 12 13 24 18 22 26 27 14 21 15 > 26 wbqueen -0 +½ +1 -½ +0 -1 +0 -0 -0 +½ 3.5/10 > 17 21 23 27 5 25 18 15 16 20 > 27 tscp 2105 -0 +1 -0 +½ -0 +½ +0 +0 -1 -0 3.0/10 > 22 4 12 26 23 19 25 7 29 14 > 28 ssechess 2248 -½ +1 -0 +0 -0 +0 -0 +0 -1 +0 2.5/10 > 30 9 22 7 6 23 24 13 31 1 > 29 averno 2174 +0 -1 +0 -0 -0 +0 +1 -0 +0 -0 2.0/10 > 23 31 8 4 19 9 32 5 27 16 > 30 chessterfield 2115 +½ -½ +0 -0 +0 -0 -0 +0 -1 +0 2.0/10 > 28 3 17 21 24 20 31 23 32 2 > 31 dchess 2126 -0 +0 -0 +0 +0 -1 +1 -0 +0 -0 2.0/10 > 10 29 9 19 20 32 30 18 28 11 > 32 skaki 2082 -1 +0 -0 +0 -0 +0 -0 +0 +0 -0 1.0/10 > 4 1 13 9 18 31 29 19 30 17 > > >Here are some good results. It's placing among the non-comercials, is very uncomplimentary for a 2001 comercial program which a few years ago briefly topped the ssdf list.(as CM6000). Crafty is missing too. S.Taylor
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