Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:24:29 05/21/01
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On May 21, 2001 at 23:11:25, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On May 21, 2001 at 17:11:28, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>The ultimate match - the newest Bringer version by Gerrit Reubold (
>>http://www.reubold.onlinehome.de)
>>on some new fast Athlon toy ( which has spent most of the last week in the
>>computer shop being repaired
>>but now seems to be ready for action at last)
>>
>>against Chess Tiger 14.1 for the Palm Vx - overclocked it runs at :
>>
>>Opening: 295 NPS
>>Middlegame: 442 NPS
>>Endgame: 560 NPS
>>
>>Timer frequency: 100 Hz
>>
>>This really is a thrilling little thingy - dunno how strong but it's _so_ "nice"
>>and tiny ...
>>
>>First game showed the Tiger far away from the ELO 2200 it claims to have playing
>>like some patzer IMHO - then came the
>>second game .
>>
>>Well , after a good opening by the Tiger this one showed a very well-known
>>weakness of Bringer - a slight misunderstanding
>>when it is about bad bishops - when there is no pawn lever left and you can't
>>enter the
>>opponent's camp you shouldn't be too confident to be able to take advantage of
>>the situation.
>>
>>Bringer running on an Athlon 1333 was very close to be the first victim of some
>>dirty jokes here against
>>the Palm Tiger which was at about the same size as the Bringer's mouse ..
>>
>>Fortunately the Cretan snake goddess who recently entered the Bringer team by
>>courtesy of Arturo Ochoa helped out :
>>
>>Chess Tiger 14.1 for the Palm blundered horribly in a dead drawn position with
>>42. ... Kd8 ????
>>
>>So Bringer won with 2-0 as expected - yet a funny feeling remains ...
>>
>>pete
>>
>>[Event "Game in 30"]
>>[Site "Testgames"]
>>[Date "2001.05.21"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "Palm Tiger 14.1"]
>>[Black "Bringer1.9ß02"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } 2. c4 e6 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } 3. Nc3
>>Bb4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } 4. e3 c5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } 5. a3 Bxc3+ { 0.00
>>0:00:00.0 }
>>6. bxc3 d6 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } 7. dxc5 dxc5 { 0.00/13 0:01:04.9 }
>>8. Qxd8+ Kxd8 { 0.00/1 0:00:00.0 } 9. a4 Ke7 { 0.23/13 0:00:34.3 }
>>10. a5 Rd8 { 0.31/14 0:00:39.2 } 11. f3 Rd6 { 0.59/13 0:00:47.9 }
>>12. e4 Ra6 { 0.94/13 0:00:36.9 } 13. Be3 Nfd7 { 1.10/15 0:01:26.3 }
>>14. g3 Nc6 { 1.25/14 0:00:33.2 } 15. f4 b6 { 1.24/13 0:00:39.0 (PB:
>>0:00:38.9 ) }
>>16. Nf3 Nxa5 { 1.51/14 0:02:00.4 (PB: 0:02:00.3 ) } 17. Bd3
>>Nxc4 { 2.06/15 0:00:27.4 } 18. Ke2 Rxa1 { 2.12/15 0:00:28.2 }
>>19. Rxa1 Nxe3 { 2.15/14 0:00:25.7 (PB: 0:00:25.6 ) } 20. Kxe3
>>a5 { 2.16/13 0:00:25.3 (PB: 0:00:25.2 ) } 21. e5 h6 { 2.22/13 0:01:14.9 (PB:
>>0:01:14.8 ) }
>>22. Be4 Ra7 { 2.25/13 0:01:39.1 } 23. Bc6 Nb8 { 2.37/14 0:00:34.3 }
>>24. Bb5 Bd7 { 2.47/14 0:00:23.6 } 25. Rb1 Bxb5 { 2.92/16 0:00:24.4 }
>>26. Rxb5 Nd7 { 2.74/14 0:00:21.8 (PB: 0:00:21.7 ) } 27. Rb3
>>a4 { 3.29/16 0:00:35.8 } 28. Ra3 b5 { 3.27/15 0:00:44.7 (PB: 0:00:10.2 ) }
>>29. Kd3 b4 { 3.35/15 0:00:29.6 } 30. cxb4 cxb4 { 3.51/14 0:00:56.6 (PB:
>>0:00:08.9 ) }
>>31. Ra1 Rc7 { 3.52/14 0:01:35.9 (PB: 0:01:35.8 ) } 32. Nd4
>>Nc5+ { 3.87/13 0:00:24.1 } 33. Ke3 b3 { 4.27/14 0:00:22.2 }
>>34. Rb1 a3 { 5.52/14 0:00:22.0 } 35. Nxb3 Rb7 { 5.53/13 0:00:26.4 (PB:
>>0:00:26.3 ) }
>>36. Ra1 Rxb3+ { 5.55/13 0:00:40.4 (PB: 0:00:40.4 ) } 37. Kd4
>>Nb7 { 5.47/12 0:00:20.5 (PB: 0:00:20.4 ) } 38. Ra2 Rb4+ { 5.66/11 0:00:34.1 }
>>39. Kc3 Ra4 { 5.71/12 0:00:28.2 (PB: 0:00:28.1 ) } 40. Kb3
>>Nc5+ { 5.74/12 0:00:31.7 } 41. Kc3 f5 { 5.88/11 0:00:24.2 }
>>42. Ra1 g5 { 6.20/11 0:00:23.1 } 43. fxg5 hxg5 { 6.87/11 0:00:17.8 }
>>44. Ra2 f4 { 7.10/12 0:00:25.2 } 45. gxf4 gxf4 { 7.61/12 0:00:18.2 (PB:
>>0:00:07.7 ) }
>>46. h4 f3 { 9.82/12 0:00:31.3 } 47. h5 f2 { 11.67/10 0:00:17.1 }
>>48. Ra1 Re4 { 12.56/10 0:00:16.2 (PB: 0:00:16.2 ) } 49. Rf1
>>a2 { 18.70/11 0:00:48.8 (PB: 0:00:48.8 ) } 50. Ra1 Re1 { Matt in 9/10
>>0:00:39.1 }
>>51. Rxa2 f1=Q { Matt in 9/1 0:00:08.6 (PB: 0:00:08.6 ) } 52. Ra7+
>>Ke8 { Matt in 9/1 0:00:26.8 (PB: 0:00:26.8 ) } 53. Ra8+ Kd7 { Matt in 9/1
>>0:00:23.9 (PB: 0:00:23.8 ) }
>>54. Ra7+ Kc6 { Matt in 9/1 0:00:29.6 (PB: 0:00:29.5 ) } 55. Rd7
>>Kxd7 { Matt in 8/1 0:00:00.0 } 56. Kb4 Rb1+ { Matt in 8/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>57. Kxc5 Qd3 { Matt in 7/1 0:00:00.0 } 58. h6 Rb5+ { Matt in 1/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>
>>0-1
>>
>>[Event "Game in 30"]
>>[Site "Testgames"]
>>[Date "2001.05.21"]
>>[Round "2"]
>>[White "Bringer1.9ß02"]
>>[Black "Palm Tiger 14.1"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. d4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } d5 2. c4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } e6 3. Nc3 { 0.00
>>0:00:00.0 }
>>Nf6 4. Bg5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Be7 5. e3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>O-O 6. Nf3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Nbd7 7. Bd3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>c5 8. O-O { 0.20/12 0:00:47.2 } dxc4 9. Bxc4 { 0.24/12 0:00:39.6 }
>>a6 10. a4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } cxd4 11. exd4 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>Nb6 12. Bb3 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Bd7 13. a5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>Nbd5 14. Bxd5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Nxd5 15. Nxd5 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>exd5 16. Bxe7 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 } Qxe7 17. Re1 { 0.00 0:00:00.0 }
>>Qb4 18. Qd2 { 0.17/13 0:00:40.4 } Qxd2 19. Nxd2 { 0.15/14 0:00:55.5 (PB:
>>0:00:55.5 ) }
>>Rfe8 20. Nb3 { 0.21/15 0:00:39.8 } Rac8 21. Nc5 { 0.31/15 0:00:51.8 }
>>Bc6 22. f4 { 0.34/14 0:01:07.8 (PB: 0:00:07.8 ) } f6 23. Rxe8+ { 0.36/15
>>0:00:39.2 }
>>Rxe8 24. Kf2 { 0.35/15 0:00:55.8 (PB: 0:00:55.8 ) } Kf7 25. b4 { 0.37/14
>>0:00:47.0 (PB: 0:00:47.0 ) }
>>Re7 26. Rc1 { 0.41/14 0:00:29.8 } Kg6 27. g4 { 0.42/14 0:00:48.3 }
>>h5 28. h3 { 0.37/14 0:00:27.7 } Bb5 29. Re1 { 0.42/14 0:00:30.8 }
>>Rxe1 30. Kxe1 { 0.41/14 0:00:18.1 } hxg4 31. hxg4 { 0.39/15 0:00:30.0 }
>>Bc6 32. Ke2 { 0.34/14 0:00:47.0 (PB: 0:00:19.7 ) } f5 33. g5 { 0.48/15
>>0:00:32.5 }
>>Kf7 34. Kd2 { 0.47/16 0:00:26.4 (PB: 0:00:08.2 ) } Ke7 35. Kd3 { 0.41/16
>>0:00:37.3 }
>>g6 36. Ke2 { 0.33/17 0:00:38.3 } Kd6 37. Kd2 { 0.31/17 0:00:38.1 }
>>Ke7 38. Nd3 { 0.30/16 0:00:39.4 } Kd6 39. Ne5 { 0.30/17 0:00:33.6 }
>>Be8 40. Kc2 { 0.30/16 0:00:46.8 (PB: 0:00:46.8 ) } Kc7 41. Kc3 { 0.29/17
>>0:00:42.8 (PB: 0:00:42.8 ) }
>>b6 42. Kb3 { 0.29/16 0:00:26.2 (PB: 0:00:26.1 ) } Kd8 43. axb6 { 1.84/17
>>0:00:35.8 }
>>Kc8 44. b5 { 1.79/18 0:01:50.5 (PB: 0:01:50.4 ) } Kb7 45. Kb4 { 2.72/17
>>0:00:57.0 (PB: 0:00:56.9 ) }
>>Kxb6 46. bxa6 { 4.20/17 0:00:19.9 } Kxa6 47. Kc5 { 4.95/16 0:00:17.4 (PB:
>>0:00:17.3 ) }
>>Ka5 48. Kxd5 { 8.09/17 0:03:06.9 (PB: 0:03:06.8 ) } Kb6 49. Ke6 { 9.72/15
>>0:01:17.5 }
>>Kc7 50. d5 { 11.60/15 0:01:19.6 } Kd8 51. Nc6+ { 12.15/15 0:00:20.2 }
>>Kc7 52. Ke7 { 11.75/16 0:00:16.7 } Bxc6 53. dxc6 { Matt in 22/13 0:00:06.8 }
>>Kxc6 54. Kf7 { Matt in 22/1 0:00:11.4 (PB: 0:00:11.3 ) } Kd5
>>55. Kxg6 { Matt in 15/1 0:00:00.1 } Ke4 56. Kf6 { Matt in 13/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>Kxf4 57. g6 { Matt in 12/1 0:00:00.0 } Ke4 58. g7 { Matt in 11/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>f4 59. g8=Q { Matt in 10/1 0:00:00.1 } f3 60. Qg4+ { Matt in 9/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>Ke3 61. Ke5 { Matt in 8/1 0:00:00.1 } Ke2 62. Kd4 { Matt in 6/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>Kf2 63. Kd3 { Matt in 4/1 0:00:00.1 } Kf1 64. Ke3 { Matt in 3/1 0:00:00.0 }
>>f2 65. Kd3 { Matt in 2/1 0:00:00.0 } Ke1 66. Qe2+ { Matt in 1/1 0:00:00.1 }
>>
>>1-0
>
>
>
>OK, fine.
>
>So I see that the lastest fashion is to pit Tiger for Palm against the first
>program you can grab, preferably with a 300 to 900 times hardware speed
>handicap? :)
>
>Your athlon 1333 is approximately 900 times faster than your overclocked Palm.
>
>What's next? Drop the Athlon box on the Palm to see if it can stand the shock?
>:) :) :)
The software is also important and not only the hardware.
I believe that 300-900 times hardware speed handicap is not enough if tiger play
against the right program that is weak enough and I believe that tiger on the
palm will have no problem to beat programs like Nero and that it can even beat
Tscp.
I guess that games against Faile may be interesting and it is not clear who is
going to win.
This is only a guess and I do not have the palm to test tiger for the palm.
Uri
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