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Subject: Re: bottlenecks

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:35:14 05/22/01

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On May 22, 2001 at 08:40:50, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On May 22, 2001 at 08:10:15, martin fierz wrote:

I already posted it.

Here a small hastely put together table

  P3   P4
 10+   20+  minimum number of cycles wasted on branch misprediction
 16kb  8kb  level 1 code cache (note the p4 has 8kb instruction TRACE cache)
  3     3   number of instructions a clock which can be processed theoretical
 16kb   -   level 1 data cache (can't remember the P4 has any)
  2     1   number of FPU/MMX decoders, so P3 is 2 times faster here
  0.5   3   number of clocks needed for shift instruction
  0.5   1   number of clocks needed for multiplication
  1Ghz  1.7Ghz       the only good thing is that the P4 clocks higher

I can't remember any terrain where the P4 was good. Perhaps a future
processor can profit from the experience they ahve with new technology.
note the p4 is 2 times BIGGEr as the p3 cpu, so it's more expensive to
press.

I wonder how the K7 performs when it gets 0.13 technology!



>>hi,
>>
>>i just got myself a PIV CPU at 1.4GHz and i'm slightly surprised that my
>>checkers program isnt running any faster on it than on a PIII 866 (that's right
>>- NO faster, not even 5%). my guess is that the CPU is sitting around waiting
>>for data. up to now, from Pentium 150 to to PIII 450 to K7 600 to PIII866 my
>>nodes/sec scaled pretty well with MHz, just with this new CPU not anymore. the
>>computer has a 100MHz bus architecture, so it's not very fast there, although it
>>has fast 400MHz RAM.
>>has anyone else observed such a thing with a fast PIV? is it possible that this
>>is the bottleneck for my program? is there one component in today's computers
>>which is generally the bottleneck? is there a way for me to make an estimate by
>>looking at my code if this could be the problem?
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
> Hi!
>
>Yes most chess-programs, performs on a P4-1,4 as an Athlon or P3-800.
>
>Bertil



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