Author: K. Burcham
Date: 23:17:50 05/22/01
when we race, we dyno first. yes we have variables in our computer printout,
barometric pressure, ambient temperature, operator error, slight varibilities in
software parameter settings.
all of these effect our "horsepower numbers" that the pc prints out.
but they will be close. and this tells us that we are ready to race with the
best. that we have done all we can with the parts that are available today.
we tune this hardware to get the highest numbers we can. only when you do this
can your total package compete against another competitor that has also put his
deal together on this level. this is standard at the top.
when i see someone post here about a programs results, running on a 550 pentium
lll,
or really even an 800 amd, in a tournament----it just means to me that with that
operator, and with that program, it had those results with a certain opening,
and with outdated hardware.
i am not saying that i dont respect tiger or fritz running on a 900 amd,
and sufficient ram for a 900. this will be a very strong game.
and few humans can play on this level.
what i am saying is that if we have tournaments in the year 2001, then any
up-to-date results will have to be on up-to-date hardware.
if someone posts here, such as sarah, and uses two 950 amds to play fritz
against tiger. then i feel that is an accurate result to judge the strength
of a program, if enough games are played in the match.
but if match or tournament results are posted with inferior hardware, then the
results have inferior meaning.
for example tiger on 1000 mhz vs deep fritz on a dual 1 gig.
tiger on 1500 mhz vs junior on 1 gig.
we all know mhz isnt everything, but i dont see how some of the results posted
here can be an accurate indication of a programs strength.
and i am not sure how close this mhz rule has to be for programs in a
tournament.
with some showing up on quads, and some on dual one gigs, it seems the results
are not true.
we all rate our humans. we think that a master with all his knowledge and chess
skills, cannot beat a supergrandmaster, even when the super gm is having a bad
day. i watch game after game at chess.net when a gm plays several masters in a
row. it almost seems like the gm plays with these guys. it is another level that
very few masters will ever achieve.
i think it is the same way with our hardware. we must use the most advanced
hardware to really know what level these programs are capable of playing on.
if crafty shows up at a tournament on two of the newly released 1700 mhz xeon
processors, and mr hyatt has sufficient ram, and his opening book is well
prepared, and with a little luck, and if everything else goes as planned---he
wins a tournament against the worlds best on lesser hardware. what would this
mean to me. it just means that on that day with that hardware he had the best
results.
until we start setting hardware limitations, and have defined classes, then
these results will be inaccurate.
the tournament coming up at icc.
it seems the hardware is not equal.
i know this is not possible.
i will still enjoy reading about the results of this tournament
i always wonder when i read results of some top commercial program on top
hardware, vs a freeware program on small hardware, what the results would have
been on equal hardware. instead of being 40 moves to mate, maybe it would have
been 65 moves to mate, or maybe even a draw.
i would like to see classes at each tournament:
single processors
1000 mhz only
1500 mhz only
2000 mhz only
dual processors
1000 mhz only
1500 mhz only
2000 mhz only
quad processors
1000 mhz only
1500 mhz only
2000 mhz only
also some rules on time management.
also each class has a limitation on ram.
also each program must run on the same operating system.
also each program must use the same opening book given to them on tournament
day.
until some rules similiar to these are excepted, our tournament results will
seem to the outside world as unprofessional.
i want to see shredder5, fritz6, junior6, nimzo8, cm8000, rebel century 3.0,
hiarcs 7.32, gambit tiger, tiger 14, crafty, sos, all the deeps, and some
others, on the exact same mhz, with the same book and same ram.
but i think this is asking too much. too difficult to arrange for a tournament.
but enjoyable to think about the possibilities and wonder what the results would
be.
thanks
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