Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 17:08:17 05/23/01
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On May 22, 2001 at 14:50:00, James T. Walker wrote: >On May 22, 2001 at 13:39:22, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On May 22, 2001 at 13:27:09, stuart taylor wrote: >>[snip] >>>Yes, Crafty is number 4, which I overlooked. Sorry! >>>But I didn't overlook the comercial list. But that was very few games, which is >>>good, but says very little. But you can't just bungle all the amatuer programs >>>together with it to make CM8K to look so great overall. It's nowhere near the >>>same category as tests against recent comercial programs. >> >>In what way? >> >>According to the last WMCCC, the world champion was Shredder. The runner up was >>Ferret, an amateur program. >> >>In the previous CCT contest, in which several commercial programs particpated, >>the winner was... >>Crafty -- an amateur program. >> >>Look at the recent Leiden contest. Some amateur programs were near the top and >>triumphed over some commercial entries. There used to be a large gap between >>the amateur and commercial programs. I believe that the gap was mostly due to >>superior opening books of the commercial programs. That gap has narrowed, as >>the amateur entries now operate with sophisticated opening books. >> >>I believe that the gap between the strongest amateur programs and the strongest >>commercial programs is very small. Of course, there is not enough empirical >>data to back up my assertion, so it is only an opinion. > >What do you mean by "very small??" The latest SSDF list has Deep Fritz at 2650 >after 470 games and Crafty 17.07 at 2487 after 857 games. What would constitute >"enough empirical data??" On what empirical data do you base your "opinion?" >Jim 1. Crafty 17.07 is NOT the latest amateur software. That version is around a year and a bit old. 2. Crafty may not be the strongest amateur program any more in anyevent. JW
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