Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:05:19 05/24/01
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On May 24, 2001 at 08:52:01, Michel Langeveld wrote: >On May 24, 2001 at 04:33:00, Jason Williamson wrote: > >>On May 24, 2001 at 02:23:30, Will Singleton wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2001 at 02:13:39, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On May 24, 2001 at 01:59:14, Will Singleton wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Volker's site (http://www.vrichey.de/cct3), I noticed two Polish programs, >>>>>Armageddon Chess and Butcher. If these are known programs, then ignore the >>>>>following, and accept my apology. >>>>> >>>>>If these are unknown programs, and have no track record of server or tournament >>>>>play, should they be allowed to play in CCT3? >>>>> >>>>>Will >>>> >>>>Another issue involves how the manual programs will play. Having dealt with ICC >>>>manual computer operators for several years, I'm concerned that they realize >>>>that they shouldn't take an active role in the games. >>>> >>>>For example, I'd like to make sure that they don't do the following: >>>> >>>>1) Select book moves for the program. The program should select its own moves >>>>once the game starts, meaning that the operator should not be sitting there with >>>>ChessBase for the first 25 moves. The operator should not after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 >>>>decide that he wants to see a Latvian, and type f5. If he sets it up that way >>>>in advance, no problem, but this kind of reactive thing shouldn't be allowed >>>>during the game. >>>> >>>>2) Control time allocation. One way to play with a manual program is to let it >>>>sit there thinking all the time. The operator makes moves when he thinks it is >>>>appropriate. If it's an easy move, it comes fast. If the program looks like >>>>it's going to play a bad move, or if the position is tactically complex, the >>>>operator lets the program think longer in the hopes that it will find something >>>>better. It is hard to run a manual program on ICC without doing something like >>>>this, because you can't just select the tournament time control and run, because >>>>of operator time and lag. But the operator should be as fair as possible. One >>>>possibility is to set the program to run at fixed time per move, and shorten the >>>>time per move as necessary as the game goes on. Another possibility is to tell >>>>the program to run at a slightly faster time control than is going to happen in >>>>the tournament, and hope that you'll accumulate time rather than running out. >>>> >>>>I'm sure there are other things that we'd all agree the manual operators should >>>>not do. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>>I know of no manual operators, I thought all were automated. Who is running >>>manually? And, do you know of those two programs I mentioned above? >>> >>>Will >> >> >>The only manual program that WAS in the tournament was CM8000 as far as I know. >>And of course CM8000 got withdrawn. :( Oh well. > >SOS has to be operated manually... > >Michel Why? Isn't it in the winboard list?
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