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Subject: Re: Question about an interesting 6piece endgame

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:16:07 05/24/01

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On May 24, 2001 at 16:32:52, Günther Simon wrote:

>This interesting position below  happened in a match between F6 and ChessTiger14
>and it was a matter of some questions about the right access towards
>the EGTBS by CT14 under CB GUIs in the CSS-Forum.
>My Chessbase CT14 shows after some time a mate in 95! by Kf7 and Ncb8
>but testing it with the latest CB-Native Crafty18.08 the result given
>by it was(around the same time as CT14) mate in 100!!
>So now I am curious about the exact length of it in this position.
>My first idea was to download the given 6piece at Bobs site but I had recognize
>(with some disappointment;) that this special file does not exist there..uhuuhu
>Maybe its because of the two pawns on one side in it and therefore it is on
>the long long "not really urgent to do list"?!
>If anyone knows about this file in the net please tell meeee!
>Otherwise I would appreciate to know the naked truth about the length of
>this mate as I could not sleep before knowing it :))
>But I strongly doubt anyone knows this <b>without</b> having that TB...
>6k1/1P6/n1n5/P7/8/8/3K4/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Regards,
>Günther Simon


I ran this thru my "horse" of a machine with all the 3-4-5 piece files
ready...  it quickly finds a mate in 100, then at about the 30 second mark
it drops to mate in 99, and sticks there thru 20 plies.  The issue here is
that it sees a transition to 5 pieces after 16 plies.  The mate score beyond
that point is certainly correct... the question is, is there a faster transition
(forced) to 5 pieces or is there a longer transition to a 5-piece ending that
is a much quicker mate?




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