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Subject: Re: Why not train chess with computer programs?

Author: gerard sanchez

Date: 06:40:31 05/25/01

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Ha ha ha !
I actully didn't mean Chess Assistant 2 but Chess Strategy 2.  I don't know it
it was just one of those times when things just sticks to your head :)

Gerard





On May 24, 2001 at 23:59:27, Albert Silver wrote:

>On May 24, 2001 at 19:07:18, gerard sanchez wrote:
>
>>
>>I am beginning to think you are a salesman :) A very good salesman if you are
>>lol
>
>:-)  Yeah, I realized it could look that way, but really I think the idea is
>good and it was really about the idea of training against the computer (subject
>of the thread) in a methodical way.
>
>>
>>Anyhow, where can I get Chess Assistant 2
>
>2 or too? If 'too' then you can find it here at ICD. If Chess Assistant 2, then
>no idea where you might find it. I think 2.1 was the last DOS version of it, but
>why would you want it? Some old 386 lying around? :-)
>
>                                      Albert
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On May 24, 2001 at 17:09:45, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2001 at 15:10:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 24, 2001 at 13:17:37, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>I am glad to read your very optimistic posting. But frankly spoken I do not
>>>>>think it will ever be possible for me to play on a 2400 ELO level against
>>>>>humans. So my first aim is to obtain 2100 ELO and then ... time will tell. I am
>>>>>however convinced that it is much easier to get 2200-2300 ELO vs computers.
>>>>>Despite all endevaours the psychological factor vs humans is rather important.
>>>>>And already the uncomfortable feeling that you are playing a 2300 ELO human
>>>>>player may suffice to loose a game ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Kurt
>>>>
>>>>I believe that you only need to play more games against humans if you want to
>>>>get 2100.
>>>>
>>>>The time that you need to get 2100 is dependent on the number of the games that
>>>>you play.
>>>>
>>>>If you play 2 tournament games against humans every week and do not agree to a
>>>>draw too early then I expect you to get more than 2100 in less than 6 monthes.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Play experience no doubt weighs significantly, but this brings to mind something
>>>a snooker teacher was found of repeating:
>>>
>>>"The phrase 'practice makes perfect' is incomplete and therefore wrong. It
>>>should be 'PROPER practice makes perfect'."
>>>
>>>Basically, it isn't about spending a lot of time at the activity, but how that
>>>time is spent. Proper methodology is crucial if you are a very ambitious.
>>>
>>>Possibly my favourite learning/training program is Strategy 2.0, which includes
>>>theory, exercises and actual guided practical play. Basically, it starts with
>>>theoretical material explaining the lesson of the day (so to speak), then goes
>>>on to exercises in which you have to find a key move or moves, the key here
>>>being that they are most often positional moves, and finally come the practical
>>>play against the computer. The key in this last part is that you have several
>>>hundred chosen positions to choose from, illustrating the different lessons, for
>>>you to train against the computer. So you practice against the computer, but the
>>>practice is clearly directed to help you work on a certain aspect of your
>>>understanding. So if I just studied weak squares, I would choose one of the
>>>practice positions of Weak squares in which I start with a large advantage
>>>because of a weak square in my opponent's position (or you could switch roles
>>>and try to defend it) and play from there, trying to exploit my advantage.
>>>
>>>In essence, it is the next step that computers can take us to, beyond the
>>>well-known: theory and exercises. Now it's theory, exercises, AND practice.
>>>Sorry if this sounds like a plug, but if you don't know it, it's worth looking
>>>at IMO.
>>>
>>>                                      Albert



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