Author: José Carlos
Date: 10:18:31 05/25/01
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On May 25, 2001 at 13:11:44, Frank Phillips wrote: >On May 25, 2001 at 12:54:49, José Carlos wrote: > >>On May 25, 2001 at 09:58:04, Frank Phillips wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2001 at 20:08:41, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>> >>>>Do we have a rough seeding list? >>>> >>>>I'm not too worried about exact positions, but where possible we should use a >>>>reasonable ordering. Poor seedings tend to upset the first few rounds, for >>>>example if Fritz played Shredder in the first round then some unfortunate first >>>>round loser would probably get to play Fritz (or Shredder)... >>>> >>> >>>If seeded I care neither whether I am top or bottom, but do not understand why >>>one of the best losing to another top program upsets the first few rounds. >>>Perhaps because I am not even sure what this means. >>> >>>As far as I can see from the tennis analogy, seeding would seem to be designed >>>to ensure that the best only play each other in final rounds for the benefit of >>>the best, spectators and business interests. >>> >>>Why is seeding preferred to random initial pairings for this event. Is it some >>>necessary feature of the Swiss system. >> >> It's easy. Swiss system is supposed to pair player with similar strenght, as >>rounds pass by. So, it's not correct, according to that, pairing a loser in the >>second round with a top program that lost to another top program. >> The key point of swiss system is make players play agains other player similar >>in strenth. So, if you win, you play stronger players than if you lose. >> >> José C. > >Thanks. > >I had not appreciated that it was decided who the winner would be before the >first games were played and pairings made according to these predictions. > >Presumably after the first games, pairings are made on the actual results in the >tournament rather than what they would have been predicted to be before the >games were played. > >So (probable) winners are only paired against (probable) losers in the first >round? That's correct for the first round, yes. In the next rounds, players with the same points will be paired each other. But even inside these small groups, the original order will decide the pairings (along with other considerations, such as alternating colors, not playing the same opponent again, etc...). José C.
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