Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:04:29 05/25/01
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On May 25, 2001 at 13:11:44, Frank Phillips wrote: >On May 25, 2001 at 12:54:49, José Carlos wrote: > >>On May 25, 2001 at 09:58:04, Frank Phillips wrote: >> >>>On May 24, 2001 at 20:08:41, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>> >>>>Do we have a rough seeding list? >>>> >>>>I'm not too worried about exact positions, but where possible we should use a >>>>reasonable ordering. Poor seedings tend to upset the first few rounds, for >>>>example if Fritz played Shredder in the first round then some unfortunate first >>>>round loser would probably get to play Fritz (or Shredder)... >>>> >>> >>>If seeded I care neither whether I am top or bottom, but do not understand why >>>one of the best losing to another top program upsets the first few rounds. >>>Perhaps because I am not even sure what this means. >>> >>>As far as I can see from the tennis analogy, seeding would seem to be designed >>>to ensure that the best only play each other in final rounds for the benefit of >>>the best, spectators and business interests. >>> >>>Why is seeding preferred to random initial pairings for this event. Is it some >>>necessary feature of the Swiss system. >> >> It's easy. Swiss system is supposed to pair player with similar strenght, as >>rounds pass by. So, it's not correct, according to that, pairing a loser in the >>second round with a top program that lost to another top program. >> The key point of swiss system is make players play agains other player similar >>in strenth. So, if you win, you play stronger players than if you lose. >> >> José C. > >Thanks. > >I had not appreciated that it was decided who the winner would be before the >first games were played and pairings made according to these predictions. > >Presumably after the first games, pairings are made on the actual results in the >tournament rather than what they would have been predicted to be before the >games were played. > >So (probable) winners are only paired against (probable) losers in the first >round? not exactly. Within a "group" with the same score, initial seeding order determines how that group is sorted and paired. If you are seeded #1, you will rank first in any group you are paired in...
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