Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 13:52:30 05/25/01
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On May 25, 2001 at 16:02:29, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 25, 2001 at 09:58:04, Frank Phillips wrote: > >>On May 24, 2001 at 20:08:41, Peter McKenzie wrote: >> >>>Do we have a rough seeding list? >>> >>>I'm not too worried about exact positions, but where possible we should use a >>>reasonable ordering. Poor seedings tend to upset the first few rounds, for >>>example if Fritz played Shredder in the first round then some unfortunate first >>>round loser would probably get to play Fritz (or Shredder)... >>> >> >>If seeded I care neither whether I am top or bottom, but do not understand why >>one of the best losing to another top program upsets the first few rounds. >>Perhaps because I am not even sure what this means. > >In a Swiss, tie-breaks are pretty common. If you miss the seedings badly, >then the tiebreaks are bad. IE the #1 seed will (if the seeds are 100% >accurate) have the highest tie-break since he will always be paired with the >strongest possible opposition (unless you have too many rounds as we do in >CCT [with 32 players, 5 rounds is optimal]). If the best program is seeded >as the bottom player in the top half, he will have weaker opponents round by >round than the #1 seed, assuming both win until they meet. > > > >> >>As far as I can see from the tennis analogy, seeding would seem to be designed >>to ensure that the best only play each other in final rounds for the benefit of >>the best, spectators and business interests. >> >>Why is seeding preferred to random initial pairings for this event. Is it some >>necessary feature of the Swiss system. Got it. When I used to play in weekend (Swiss) congresses, many of the top grades in my lowly class took a bye (draw) on the Friday evening. This seemed to give them an easier tournament, even though they finished near the top, sometimes as joint winners.
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