Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 22:00:02 05/26/01
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On May 26, 2001 at 23:09:07, Christophe Theron wrote:
>On May 26, 2001 at 20:51:59, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2001 at 20:47:42, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>On May 26, 2001 at 17:32:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 26, 2001 at 17:02:19, James Robertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Wow! This was a really cool. Insomniac has never before even drawn with Shredder
>>>>>in a tournament game.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hardware: Shredder used a dual 800 to Insomniac's Athlon 1300mhz.
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "CCT3"]
>>>>>[Site "chessclub.com"]
>>>>>[Date "2001.05.26"]
>>>>>[Round "3"]
>>>>>[White "Insomniac"]
>>>>>[Black "Shredder"]
>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>[TimeControl "2700+10"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 Ng4 7. Bg5 h6 8.
>>>>>Bh4 g5 9. Bg3 Bg7 10. Be2 h5 11. Bxg4 hxg4 12. O-O Bxd4 13. Qxd4 f6 14. Nd5
>>>>>Nc6 15. Qe3 Be6 16. Nb6 Rb8 17. c4 Kf7 18. Rad1 Qg8 19. Nd5 Rd8 20. b3 Qg6
>>>>>21. Nc7 Bc8 22. Rfe1 Rhf8 23. Qb6 Ne5 24. Nd5 Nc6 25. Rd2 Rd7 26. Nc3 Qg7
>>>>>27. Rd3 Rfd8 28. Red1 Qf8 29. R3d2 Qg8 30. Qe3 Qh7 31. Nd5 Re8 32. Nb6 Rdd8
>>>>>33. c5 Qg6 34. Qe2 Kg8 35. Kf1 Kh7 36. Nxc8 Rxc8 37. cxd6 exd6 38. Qxg4
>>>>>Qxe4 39. Qd7+ Qe7 40. Rxd6 Kg7 41. Re1 Qf7 42. Qxf7+ Kxf7 43. Rd7+ Re7 44.
>>>>>Rexe7+ Nxe7 45. Rxb7 Rc6 46. Ke2 Ke6 47. Rc7 Rxc7 48. Bxc7 Nd5 49. Ba5 Nf4+
>>>>>50. Kf3 Nd3 51. Ke3 Nf4 52. g3 Ng6 53. h3 Ne5 54. f4 Nf7 55. Kf3 Kf5 56.
>>>>>Bd2 Kg6 57. fxg5 fxg5 58. Ke4 Nd6+ 59. Kd5 Nf5 60. g4 Ng7 61. a4 Ne8 62. b4
>>>>>Kf7 63. b5 axb5 64. axb5 Nc7+ 65. Kc6
>>>>>{Shredder resigns} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am amazed by the number of pointless moves made by both sides in this game.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it's because of the position. I should check with my own program, maybe it
>>>>would also make these pointless moves.
>>>>
>>>>I guess strong chess players would have a good laugh if they browse thru this
>>>>game. "And you need these thousands dollars computers to play like that???" :)
>>>>
>>>>No offense intended to Stefan or James. It's the kind of game that makes me
>>>>think: "huh, I'd better work on better planning in Tiger, because maybe it would
>>>>play similarly in that position".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>
>>Hey, out of order. You seem to have time on your hands, enough to work full
>>time on chess. You certainly could have participated in CCT3. So, please,
>>don't condescend to the real players.
>>
>>If you can show how Tiger would have played differently, fine. Otherwise.. you
>>know what.
>>
>>Will
>
>
>
>I am supposed to know what? Go ahead, tell what you think.
>
>I have mentionned TWICE in my post that it is possible that Tiger would play the
>same pointless moves.
>
>I did not mention ONCE, because I knew somebody would misread my post and
>misinterpret it, I mentionned it TWICE.
>
>Obviously you don't understand the spirit of my message. Sorry for you.
>
>
>
> Christophe
Christophe, I understand what you say and I agree.
What an awful game. Insomniac played well, but Shredder...
1st, let itself to be with a terrible pawn structure. It is not that it has
weaknesses, it is worst than that. It was a pawn structure that was not
_flexible_. White had all the time to play c5 whenever it wants. That is why
Insomniac took some time. Then, It had no clue where to place the pieces. It was
wandering around with the Queen with no plan whatsoever. It tried to protect the
Bishop because it thought that it was a good "light squares" bishop and did not
understand that the opponent knight was better in this type of positions. It
could have tried to play Kg7, Qf7 and keep the Bishop in e6. In this way, c5 is
not that terrible. Still, the position is good for white.
Shredder should take this opening out of its book.
hxg4 was ever played? sounds very suspect.
Regards,
Miguel
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