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Subject: Re: gs2930 position 13

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:59:58 05/26/01

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On May 26, 2001 at 20:59:24, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On May 26, 2001 at 14:02:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On May 26, 2001 at 12:34:19, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>I got a fail-high on Bxg7 after 80 hours, on a quad Xeon 450, but I didn't have
>>>time to resolve it.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>It is interesting to know the reason that it failed high.
>>
>>Unfortunately programs only give main line.
>>
>>If you can make your program remember all the lines that it considered for more
>>than 1 minute than it will be interesting to know them.
>>
>>The number of these lines cannot be more than 80*60 in 80 hours and I am
>>interested only in the lines that begin with Bxg7.
>>
>>Uri
>
>The only information I could have returned is that Bg7 failed high, and for each
>possible response I could have remembered the move that refuted the response,
>and for ever possible response to the move that refuted each response, I could
>have remembered the move that refuted that move.
>
>You don't end up with a line when you have a fail high.  You end up with
>something with a little less direction to it.

I understand it.
I meant to say that even a main line is not the interesting information that I
want to see but it is the information that all programs give after solving the
fail high.

The problem is that even after you solve the fail high and have the main line I
believe that the interesting information is the lines that your program
considered for a long time.

If programs can give a tree with the idea that I suggest that it may help people
to understand the reason for the move.

I suggested the lines that were considered for more than a minute but a better
idea is to post first lines that your program considered for more time.

I mean something like
1.Bxg7 20 hours
1.Bxg7 Kxg7 2.Ne5 15 hours
1.Bxg7 Kxg7 2.Ne5 Rfd8 3.Qg4+ 6 hours
1.Bxg7 Rfd8 Rxd8+ 3 hours

If you can change your program to give this information that it will be
interesting to see it.

>
>I had to stop the test because round 1 of the CCT was starting.  I'll run it
>again after the games tomorrow, I think.

Thanks

Uri
>
>bruce



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