Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: my shredder5 wont play the deep moves in the insomniac game--why?

Author: Vine Smith

Date: 00:04:34 05/27/01

Go up one level in this thread


On May 26, 2001 at 22:16:12, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>
>a game posted here that deep shredder on dual 800's, lost to insomniac,
>i cannot get my shredder5 (no patch), 1460 mhz 300 megs hash, 768 megs ram,
>to make the same moves.
>
>for example move 11. the deep shredder played hxg4.
>
>my shredder5 wants to exchange bishops and attack the queen.
>this move would be Bxg4.
>
>i thought maybe it would change to hxg4, but it never did.
>the 1460 is probably searching about the same kns as the dual 800's.
>during move 11, shredder5 was searching about 290 kns.
>
>after 10 minutes analysing move 11, shredder5 says the move deep shredder chose
>is .5 worse than its choice.
>
>in other words   deep shredder     hxg4  -.5
>                 shredder5         Bxg4   .0
>
>
>and there are several other examples in this same game.
>
>how do we explain this?
>
>if deep shredder has the same search as shredder5, and if both programs search
>the same number of nodes for move 11, then how do we explain this?
>
>thanks
11...hxg4 is a known book move, so even if it's not in the Shredder 5 book, that
could just mean a different or adjusted book was used for the tournament. This
might be the result of "learning" (I don't know if Shredder implements this
feature, but it seems likely, where a program avoids book lines it has had bad
experience with) or just a precaution against someone finding holes in the
commercial version's book and using this knowledge against the program.
Regards,
Vine Smith



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.