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Subject: Re: my shredder5 wont play the deep moves in the insomniac game--why?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 01:53:10 05/27/01

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On May 26, 2001 at 22:16:12, K. Burcham wrote:


>
>
>a game posted here that deep shredder on dual 800's, lost to insomniac,
>i cannot get my shredder5 (no patch), 1460 mhz 300 megs hash, 768 megs ram,
>to make the same moves.
>
>for example move 11. the deep shredder played hxg4.



Move  JZInsomniac        ShredderX
----  ----------------   ----------------
  1.  e4       (0:01)    c5       (0:04)
  2.  Nf3      (0:00)    d6       (0:02)
  3.  d4       (0:00)    cxd4     (0:02)
  4.  Nxd4     (0:00)    Nf6      (0:02)
  5.  Nc3      (0:00)    a6       (0:02)
  6.  Be3      (0:00)    Ng4      (0:02)
  7.  Bg5      (0:00)    h6       (0:02)
  8.  Bh4      (0:00)    g5       (0:02)
  9.  Bg3      (0:00)    Bg7      (0:02)
 10.  Be2      (0:00)    h5       (0:02)
 11.  Bxg4     (0:00)    hxg4     (0:02)
 12.  O-O      (0:00)    Bxd4     (0:02)
 13.  Qxd4     (0:00)    f6       (0:02)
 14.  Nd5      (0:00)    Nc6      (0:02)
 15.  Qe3      (0:00)    Be6      (0:02)
 16.  Nb6      (2:47)    Rb8      (0:02)
 17.  c4       (2:39)    Kf7      (0:02)
 18.  Rad1     (2:28)    Qg8      (2:11)
 19.  Nd5      (1:10)    Rd8      (0:19)
 20.  b3       (0:55)    Qg6      (4:11)
 21.  Nc7      (0:58)    Bc8      (1:17)
 22.  Rfe1     (0:54)    Rhf8     (0:57)
 23.  Qb6      (0:50)    Ne5      (1:05)

As you see it was all book moves they played.
Shredder gets out of book at move 18 and could
directly resign there.

Best regards,
Vincent

>
>my shredder5 wants to exchange bishops and attack the queen.
>this move would be Bxg4.
>
>i thought maybe it would change to hxg4, but it never did.
>the 1460 is probably searching about the same kns as the dual 800's.
>during move 11, shredder5 was searching about 290 kns.
>
>after 10 minutes analysing move 11, shredder5 says the move deep shredder chose
>is .5 worse than its choice.
>
>in other words   deep shredder     hxg4  -.5
>                 shredder5         Bxg4   .0
>
>
>and there are several other examples in this same game.
>
>how do we explain this?
>
>if deep shredder has the same search as shredder5, and if both programs search
>the same number of nodes for move 11, then how do we explain this?
>
>thanks



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