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Subject: Re: my shredder5 wont play the deep moves in the insomniac game--why?

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 06:23:18 05/27/01

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On May 26, 2001 at 22:16:12, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>
>a game posted here that deep shredder on dual 800's, lost to insomniac,
>i cannot get my shredder5 (no patch), 1460 mhz 300 megs hash, 768 megs ram,
>to make the same moves.
>
>for example move 11. the deep shredder played hxg4.
>
>my shredder5 wants to exchange bishops and attack the queen.
>this move would be Bxg4.
>
>i thought maybe it would change to hxg4, but it never did.
>the 1460 is probably searching about the same kns as the dual 800's.
>during move 11, shredder5 was searching about 290 kns.
>
>after 10 minutes analysing move 11, shredder5 says the move deep shredder chose
>is .5 worse than its choice.
>
>in other words   deep shredder     hxg4  -.5
>                 shredder5         Bxg4   .0
>
>
>and there are several other examples in this same game.
>
>how do we explain this?
>
>if deep shredder has the same search as shredder5, and if both programs search
>the same number of nodes for move 11, then how do we explain this?
>
>thanks

The answer is simple.  Deep Shredder is not the same program as Shredder 5 !!
Deep Shredder has some improvements over Shredder 5 and is according to my test
slightly stronger than Shredder 5 even on a single processor.  I must add that
this time control does not favor either Shredder.  Shredder gets better with
longer time controls and faster hardware.  The difference between G/60 and
40/2hours is significant.  This program seems designed to do one thing and
that's play very well at 40/2hours on a fast machine.  JMHO
Jim



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