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Subject: Re: Effect of tablebases on programs' performance

Author: James Swafford

Date: 18:42:39 05/27/01

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On May 27, 2001 at 20:26:47, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>Sometimes the increase is zero.  For instance, in my CCT3 games over the past
>two days, none of them were affected by endgame databases.

I used them in Tristram 5.0, which came out of retirement for CCT3.
Tablebases became a factor twice.  The first time was while playing
Arasan.  Towards the endgame (with seven pieces on the board),
Tristram started probing wildly.  It probed the disks so much my
nps went from 300k or so to < 30k.  I think it *costs* me half a
point.  I can't be sure... but I went from a won position to a
drawn one.

The second case they saved my a**.  This was while playing Amateur.
You yourself commented that Amateur would win that game.  Will was
up on material and it really looked like he would win, but eventually
tablebases turned up a draw for me.  Very lucky.

So I guess the net effect was almost nothing.

[snip]

>
>I think it is interesting that so many people use the Nalimov stuff without any
>concern that at some point while the program is playing, it is not their program
>actually playing.  That idea bothered me enough that I wrote my own stuff.

It does actually, which is why I may not use them in the program I'm
working on now.  I don't know yet.


--
James



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