Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 14:21:01 05/29/01
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On May 29, 2001 at 14:42:47, K. Burcham wrote:
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>since i am new here (about three years now), i do not know why you are the
>subject of negative remarks and jokes.
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>i have read the comments of other posts here that make fun of you, and since i
>dont know what has happened in the past, then i dont know why some posts here do
>not respect you.
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>i know we all are on different levels of chess understanding and theory.
>and we all have different ideas about programs, and the people that post here.
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>because of the level i am on, your post is very impressive.
>very entertaining to read.
>very informative.
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>maybe some of the negative posted here about you is due to some programmers here
>not able to play on your level. not sure why.
Most of my posts aren't what you call 'peacekeepers' posts.
Majority is presenting my view on things, and in computerchess
there are as many views as posters and nerds go fight usually then.
Also there are commercial interests. Most of my posts i don't
work on sales of my diep actually, all i should post actually
is the same as was on the chessbase site when fritz started
with 0 out of 3 or so in wmccc 1997:
"Fritz started the tournament quietly".
Look that's commercial writing, i'm not the kind of guy who
writes that kind of what i consider crap. If i lose i post i'm
disappointed. In general if i lose i'm hard to approach anyway.
My team missed getting to masterclass 0.5 board points a week
before I-CSVN.
As secretary of one of the biggest chessclubs where
playing masterclass (highest league in netherlands,
where all kinds of IMs and GMs play) with a team where
i also as a player play in, if you don't get to masterclass
because you miss 0.5 points against a very weak opponent
(we played 5-5 instead of winning the match with 5.5-4.5 or more)
so THAT PISSED ME OFF!
Now that kind of mentality is not very common of course here,
so i understand that some do not like that.
Of course i appreciate that you like it!!
>i guess since your post is very impressive to me, and i have complimented you
>and your program in a positive way, then i also will be on "their list" of
>jokes.
Thanks!!
>by the way, you probably dont remember me, but i purchased your program two
>years ago, diep.
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>there are a lot of people here that come to read daily.
>most dont know what C++ is. and most like to read any technical posts that they
>might pick up some understanding of comp chess that they did not know before.
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>some of the regulars here that post often, and including the programmers, cause
>the daily (non-programming)readers to think they know them. this is a common
>feeling at any internet site where there are people that frequent a site often.
>we tend to view each other a certain way.
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>this caused a problem for me one time.
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>i do not know robert hyatt at all. never met him. do not know what kind of
>person he is. do not know any in his family. no one has told me a story about
>him to feel any negative about him. i do not know him period.
Well i talk regurarly to Bob and i can assure you he's a very nice
person. Also a very busy person, if i would be in his shoes i wouldn't
manage to do so many things a day.
a) reading and writing loads of email
b) teaching students
c) posting loads of messages to mailing lists and
user groups and also zillions of postings to CCC.
Of course the majority of postings here from the average user
is also below average quality then, if any of the postings from his
or my side are hard, then that's not bad meant.
But fact is that the average posting here is about a tournament
which someone organized at home at 0 1 level (1 second a move
at most) and that's not exactly my favourite posting, and it
probably isn't Bob's favourite posting. RGCC is a better forum
for that kind of postings...
>but....because of how i perceived him as a person due to some of his negative
>remarks here, and how he chooses to post sometimes, this caused me to handle a
>situation that happened at chess.net in a way that i would not do again.
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>the program i used to play crafty, won.
>i make all manual moves at chess.net.
>i had no idea robert would let someone else attend his program.
>but he did.
>the remarks that this person made to me after the crafty loss at chess.net,
>made me think it was robert.
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>why----because it sounded like some of his posts here. i thought for sure it was
>him. the remarks were not pleasent at all. i was told my profile "notes" were
>not true. the operator didnt think i made manual moves.
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>well come to find out, it was not robert that messaged me.
>the whole thing was a misunderstanding by three people.
>roberts follow up post on this matter with an explanation of how it happened
>was very classy. so not that it matters to him or anyone here, but now i look at
>him different than i did.
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>we have many things in our lives. cars, jobs, families, bills, houses,
>friends,etc. if this forum is also a part of your life and you read it daily
>like i do, then the posts here can affect the way we view each other
>tremendously.
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>i dont know who here has hair on there head and who is bald.
>and i dont know who here showers daily or once a week.
>or weather you prefer a 6'1 redhead or a short blond. (myself, a good looking
>redhead drives me crazy)
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>but some of you, by your words and the way you come across in your posts
>make us view you in certain ways.
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>not that this matters, and most wont care, this place has been here for years,
>but i just wanted to post this.
>dont intend to offend anyone.
>dont intend to post anything you dont already know.
>just wanted to share with you the influence some here have on the nobodies like
>me.
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>xracer
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