Author: william penn
Date: 23:57:04 05/29/01
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On May 30, 2001 at 00:41:01, Christophe Theron wrote: >On May 30, 2001 at 00:37:21, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On May 29, 2001 at 23:01:41, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On May 29, 2001 at 22:56:24, william penn wrote: >>> >>>>On May 29, 2001 at 22:11:48, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 29, 2001 at 17:46:57, Rajen Gupta wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>NT >>>> >>>> >>>> Come on Christophe why the false modest? You know as well as anyone that Chess >>>>Tiger will slaughter Cm8000, you just witness the fritz and junior results. >>> >>>I don't think it's false modesty. >>>With the big wins by both Junior 5 and Deep Fritz over the CM8K. >>>This match could determine whether Tiger is #1 or not as an equally >>>large win is required. And just because those two produced a large win >>>don't mean Tiger will automatically, especially after only 5 or 6 games. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >> >> >>Yes, I watch matches every day that start as a 100% win after 10 games and end >>up at just 55% after a lot of games. >> >>I ask for more games when my program loses 0.5-2.5, and I also ask for more >>games when it is the opposite. >> >>That's one of the very first lessons that should be taught to chess players: >>statistics and margin of error. >> >>As Bob says, the Deep Junior - Deep Fritz match should have opened the eyes of >>everybody here, but for some reason it did not. >> >>Now it is true that given the score of Deep Fritz and Junior 5 against CM8000, I >>can have good hopes for Chess Tiger 14, but it's really too early to say >>anything else. I mean that what has been said could have been said without >>looking at the current 0.5-2.5 score, because this score carries almost NO >>information with it. >> >> >> >> Christophe > > > >Correction for the above sentence, it's 0.5-4.5. Now this starts to carry some >information, but not much. > >I expect the score to be 2.5-4.5 next time an update is published, it happens >all the time. Then it will not look that exceptional anymore. > > > > Christophe I Would agree with you Christophe if your opponent was century3, or junior6, or even say Shredder5, but CM8000, HAS a losing record, not only in the ssdf, but in tournament play. Look at the recent cct3 results, a top program just would do better then this, if infact it is a top program. I PREDICT THE FINAL SCORE WILL BE SIMILIAR IF NOT IDENTICAL TO THE DEEP FRITZ CM8000 MATCH. I Wish everyone would just admit the truth, CM8000 IS Simply weaker then it's predessor, this happened also with mchess7 and mchess8, although the difference between them was not as great as between cm8000 and cm6000.
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