Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:18:05 05/30/01
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On May 30, 2001 at 08:23:38, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On May 30, 2001 at 08:07:19, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On May 30, 2001 at 07:05:02, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >> >>>He's a monster! Look what he did to scrappy (crafty) in an 11 game session on >>>ICC: >>> >>>82: + 3382 W 3365 scrappy [ br 5 7] A44 Res May 30 01 05:15 >>>81: = 3365 B 3382 scrappy [ br 5 7] A03 Agr May 30 01 04:57 >>>80: = 3364 W 3383 scrappy [ br 5 7] A43 Agr May 30 01 04:35 >>>79: = 3363 B 3384 scrappy [ br 5 7] B07 Agr May 30 01 04:10 >>>78: = 3362 W 3385 scrappy [ br 5 7] A40 Agr May 30 01 02:25 >>>77: = 3361 B 3386 scrappy [ br 5 7] A46 50 May 30 01 01:54 >>>76: = 3360 W 3387 scrappy [ br 5 7] D02 Rep May 30 01 01:39 >>>75: = 3359 W 3384 scrappy [ br 5 7] A40 Agr May 29 01 20:26 >>>74: + 3358 B 3385 scrappy [ br 5 7] B07 Res May 29 01 19:57 >>>73: = 3339 B 3414 scrappy [ br 5 7] B07 Agr May 29 01 18:11 >>>72: = 3335 W 3418 scrappy [ br 5 7] A40 Agr May 29 01 17:55 >>> >>>If he can do this at blitz, what chance would computer chess programs have >>>against him at slow chess? I think it is possible that Roman is the strongest >>>player in the world against computers. What does everybody else think about >>>that? >> >>I think that Crafty has the disadvantage that it is a free program. >> >>I guess that a lot of GM can beat Crafty at 5 7 time control in 11 games match >>if they train enough against it at home but other simply do not try it because >>they cannot earn much from it. >> >>I am more interested to know if JRLOK can do it against Ferret(In this case he >>has the problem that he cannot play against Ferret hundreds of games when Ferret >>and Bruce have no idea about the games). >> >>Uri > > >But it seems that Crafty has more "anti-anti-computer" code in it than other >programs, which are tuned to play other comps rather than humans. For example, a >lot of other programs succumb more easily to humans with simply a stonewall >attack, which does not work so well against crafty. This guy _is_ incredibly strong. But there are other things that are important here. IE he often wants to play vs a specific opening, which I always allow if asked. Several draws and a couple of wins is very unusual, but it can happen. By the same token I have seen him lose 20 straight too, of course... People are worried about Kramnik losing to deep fritz. This GM on ICC can find any small weakness in a program and drive a truck through it. And he will tell you what he found. And then it becomes amazing to see how once he finds such a weakness, he can then create the positions where that weakness suddenly becomes important. I'll soon hear about what he is doing. It is also remotely possible that this is one of two former world champions, as well. I'll find out in a week or so.
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