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Subject: Re: JRLOK is not Human!

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 08:34:51 05/30/01

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On May 30, 2001 at 10:18:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 30, 2001 at 08:23:38, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2001 at 08:07:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 30, 2001 at 07:05:02, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>
>>>>He's a monster! Look what he did to scrappy (crafty) in an 11 game session on
>>>>ICC:
>>>>
>>>>82: + 3382 W 3365 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A44 Res May 30 01 05:15
>>>>81: = 3365 B 3382 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A03 Agr May 30 01 04:57
>>>>80: = 3364 W 3383 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A43 Agr May 30 01 04:35
>>>>79: = 3363 B 3384 scrappy      [ br  5   7] B07 Agr May 30 01 04:10
>>>>78: = 3362 W 3385 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A40 Agr May 30 01 02:25
>>>>77: = 3361 B 3386 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A46 50  May 30 01 01:54
>>>>76: = 3360 W 3387 scrappy      [ br  5   7] D02 Rep May 30 01 01:39
>>>>75: = 3359 W 3384 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A40 Agr May 29 01 20:26
>>>>74: + 3358 B 3385 scrappy      [ br  5   7] B07 Res May 29 01 19:57
>>>>73: = 3339 B 3414 scrappy      [ br  5   7] B07 Agr May 29 01 18:11
>>>>72: = 3335 W 3418 scrappy      [ br  5   7] A40 Agr May 29 01 17:55
>>>>
>>>>If he can do this at blitz, what chance would computer chess programs have
>>>>against him at slow chess? I think it is possible that Roman is the strongest
>>>>player in the world against computers. What does everybody else think about
>>>>that?
>>>
>>>I think that Crafty has the disadvantage that it is a free program.
>>>
>>>I guess that a lot of GM can beat Crafty at 5 7 time control in 11 games match
>>>if they train enough against it at home but other simply do not try it because
>>>they cannot earn much from it.
>>>
>>>I am more interested to know if JRLOK can do it against Ferret(In this case he
>>>has the problem that he cannot play against Ferret hundreds of games when Ferret
>>>and Bruce have no idea about the games).
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>But it seems that Crafty has more "anti-anti-computer" code in it than other
>>programs, which are tuned to play other comps rather than humans. For example, a
>>lot of other programs succumb more easily to humans with simply a stonewall
>>attack, which does not work so well against crafty.
>
>
>This guy _is_ incredibly strong.  But there are other things that are important
>here.  IE he often wants to play vs a specific opening, which I always allow if
>asked.  Several draws and a couple of wins is very unusual, but it can happen.
>By the same token I have seen him lose 20 straight too, of course...

I have a feeling that his bad streaks are due to his being tired. I know from my
experience that my playing strength can vary in a 400 point range. Sometimes my
bad days are totally unexpected. Recently, I watched my bullet rating plummet to
below 1800. I had what I thought was a good nights sleep. I felt fine, but then
I could only manage to win 1 out of 18 games!

I figure that when Roman is in good playing form, he can hold his own against
comps easy.

>
>People are worried about Kramnik losing to deep fritz.  This GM on ICC can
>find any small weakness in a program and drive a truck through it.  And he will
>tell you what he found.  And then it becomes amazing to see how once he finds
>such a weakness, he can then create the positions where that weakness suddenly
>becomes important.
>
>I'll soon hear about what he is doing.  It is also remotely possible that this
>is one of two former world champions, as well.  I'll find out in a week or so.



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