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Subject: Re: Depths equivalences

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 14:39:39 04/20/98

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On April 20, 1998 at 16:19:10, Sylvain Renard wrote:

>On April 20, 1998 at 15:33:57, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>Genius depth 6 means, I think, that the program is considering the first
>>6 plies in a brute force manner (or nearly) and is considering
>>selectively 4 plies more, followed by a QSearch.
>  Hello Christophe,
>what makes you think it is 4 plies? I have always thought that
>after the 6 plies of brute force, Genius searched 12 plies more
>in a selective way and there was nothing else (these 12 plies
>include the quiescence search). Have you an example where Genius
>"sees" more than brute force + 12 (hash tables off , of course) ?
>   Sylvain

Try this position (white to move):

       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    8  |   | *K| *B| *R|   |   |   | *R|
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    7  | *P| *P|   |   |   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    6  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    5  | P |   | *N|   |   | *P| *P| *Q|
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    4  |   |   | N |   |   |   | *N|   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    3  | R |   |   |   | Q |   | P |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    2  |   |   |   | B |   | P |   |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
    1  |   |   | R |   |   | B | K |   |
       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

Genius 3.0 and older does not find the mate (1.Qf4+ is mate in 21 plies)
before search depth 9/21. However, Genius 4 and 5 finds the mate at much
lower search depths. Because of this (and other positions) I believe
that
your conclusion is correct for old versions of Genius, but that the most
recent versions extend some lines beyond the 12 plies of selective
search.

Tord



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