Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 04:29:01 05/31/01
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On May 31, 2001 at 01:41:43, william penn wrote: >On May 31, 2001 at 00:37:46, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>If computers had grandmaster strength - what in my opinion they have not at all >>- it would never be possible that a 2000 ELO player can still reach a score of >>about 30 %. Please refer to earlier debates on this subject. >>Kurt > > > Grandmaster Strength = Grandmaster results.... Century1 after 32 games has a >elo rating of 2530 against all grandmaster and international master players. Now >ask yourself can you do the same? IF THOSE TYPE OF RESULTS DOES NOT EQUAL GM >STRENGTH THEN TELL ME WHAT DO THEY MEAN? Another very important point is that >since you have never played grandmasters regulary you don't know how you might >score against them if given the chance, i have seen many games where expert >level players have beaten grandmasters, and players in the 2300 beat them more >then you might expect. Because you can draw a computer this means really little, >because a computer will allow you a draw simply because it is not a counscious >entity, and therefore is not aware that you are a weaker player, so it will make >the best move, whereas a strong human player will play a slightly inferior move >knowing you are not strong enough to give the best reply. Another factor is that >you can always draw using the three move repition rule, because the computer >will evaluatate the position as slightly negative for itself, then it will >repeat the position, again not counscious being aware that you are not a >Grandmaster. COMMON SENSE, should tell you that a computer cannot achieve a 2700 >elo performance rating, beating on the way PETER LEKO Good point/s, and in addition GM's play for the win against Progs, but if i sat down and exchanged pieces 'till the damn thing offered me a draw then i am playing on the fact that the prog don't care if the game is a draw. Regards Jonas
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