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Subject: Re: 2225 kns 2 x 1700 mhz xeon, order pc or assemble yourself

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:10:29 06/01/01

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On June 01, 2001 at 02:28:07, Lonnie Cook wrote:

>On May 31, 2001 at 22:57:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 31, 2001 at 22:14:11, K. Burcham wrote:
>>
>>>this baby should hit about 2225 kns.
>>>(aint that a waste of transistors---dang bottlenecks)
>>>
>>>cant find a site that has tested this processor (i saw intels tests)
>>>wonder if the xeon is as slow as the pentium 4.
>>>
>>>
>>>i noticed that dell has a system available with dual 1700 xeons.
>>>i put one together online, just the tower, ran about $4800 with
>>>1 gig ram (800mhz), and one ide hard drive.
>>>
>>>so i started looking to see if the individual components are available,
>>>to assemble at home. well you know how that is---they are at the sites,
>>>but if you can actually get them---not sure.
>>
>>
>>
>>There is _really_ something wrong here.  I just bought 4 700mhz xeons 2
>>months ago.  They sold for $1,300 each (1mb L2 versions).  Are these _really_
>>"xeon" processors with large L2 cache?  The pricing defies any logic I can
>>find on Pricewatch...
>
>
>Bob,
>considering the Dual 1.7Ghz with 256K L2 vs. your Quad 700 Xeon 1MB ... What do
>you personally feel as to the speed difference between the two configs?
>
>U think the Dual 1.7GHz would run a better benchmark for crafty, pros, cons?

I'll answer that for Bob, the P4 has to share it's small 8kb tracecache
with 2 processors. Whatever the speed of the BUS of the Xeon version,
that's not interesting.

The bottleneck is the processor here which is called P4. NOT other things.

Let's say simply that the thunderbird and P3 are THAT good that other
things also are getting seen as bottleneck.


A quad 700 will outgun a 1.7 dual P4 by a HUGE margin. The word Xeon is
only to boosts sales because poor guys want something for their money,
but companies buy if they hear a cool word. In this case the X-word.

Bad sales trick.

Obviously intel wants to make parallel processors more expensive in
the future as processors that aren't running parallel. I fear in future
the only kind of processors of intel that is going to work in a dual
is called 'xeon'.

If my fear is untrue (hope so, though it doesn't save me money
because i go invest in dual AMDs anyway) then that means the X-word is
a PR trick.

Best regards,
Vincent



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