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Subject: Re: I guess it's not big news anymore that computer Draws 2885 elo?

Author: Tina Long

Date: 21:21:42 06/01/01

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On May 30, 2001 at 20:47:35, william penn wrote:

>On May 30, 2001 at 18:20:06, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2001 at 18:04:20, william penn wrote:
>>
>>>Deep Shredder played exceptionally well against Gm Dreev today.  Why isn't this
>>>big news?? The guy is almost 2700? IT is become fact more and more that not only
>>>are computers grandmasters, but Super Grandmasters, i don't think i need to cite
>>>the numerous examples of this in recent matches. I THINK even the most sceptical
>>>person must acknowledge that on athlon 750 and higher pc programs are atleast
>>>2550elo if not more.
>>
>>The discussion on computer strength compared to human ELO is a little more
>>complicated than expressed above, which have been mentioned in numerous similar
>>debates in the past.
>>
>>Mogens.
>
>
> Baloney, it's complicated only if you want to make it complicated, the evidence
>and results are simple, over more than 250 games at 40/2hr, computers have
>demonstrated Grandmaster Strength, the sytle of the computers is irrelevant,
>what's important is the results, so it's as simple as believing what you see
>with your own eyes, everythingelse is philosophical bullshit, and worthless
>speculation.

And yet YOU have beaten CM8k twice, & drawn it once.
Now I know CM8k is NOT Deep Shredder, but it must be somewhere in the ballpark.

BTW can you please post your winning & drawn games against CM8k.

Tina Long



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