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Subject: Re: Time to re-start discussion? Has there been any real progress in last

Author: Rajen Gupta

Date: 06:35:41 06/04/01

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On June 04, 2001 at 08:57:09, José Carlos wrote:

>On June 04, 2001 at 08:28:43, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>1/2/(5) years? Yes, if we remove benefit from better hardware, what is left??
>>Any real improvement is playing level of top engines. 5 points from Nalimov
>>may be?!
>>
>>Jouni
>
>  I think you cannot remove benefit from better hardware, because most
>programmer adapt to new hardware to get better programs. For example, a lot of
>programs have become SMP. This has happend because multiprocessor machines have
>become cheaper, so it is a hardware improvement that leads to software
>improvement.
>  Besides that, you can chose your favourite program and compare versions. Let's
>say Fritz. Compare strength of versions 4.01, 5.32, 6, Deep Fritz. I think you
>can answer your own question, can't you?
>
>  José C.

i'm not sure: see my previous post. get the chessbase engines to play each other
from an individual copy of the same opening book-you'll be surprised at the lack
of any difference in engine strength.i'm planning to play the 2 tigers vs j5,
f5.32 and f6 light, all from individual copies of the same opening book(tiger
book).also going to play f5.16 vs f4 vs h6)if there is no significant difference
in playing strength between them (i have a suspicion that it might be the case)
then i'll probably stop buying newer programmes.

inmo 95% of the so-called increse in strength is purely the result of better
opening books, book learning functions, access to endgametables and tuning
against the immediate predecessor programmes.

i doubt one would get a better analysis of a data base from the newer programmes

rajen



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