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Subject: Re: Starting position to 30 ply

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 07:29:12 06/04/01

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On June 04, 2001 at 06:01:39, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 04, 2001 at 05:29:47, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On June 04, 2001 at 04:30:03, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On June 04, 2001 at 03:36:25, Rudolf Huber wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>A couple of days ago I said (in a discussion about mtd(f)) that my chess
>>>>program can search the starting position to 30 ply over night when the eval
>>>>evaluates material only:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>SOS no eval
>>>>  1.00   0:00    0.00   1.h3 (2)
>>>>  2.00   0:00    0.00   1.h3 (45)
>>>>  3.00   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 (138)
>>>>  4.00   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 (263)
>>>>  5.00   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 (435)
>>>>  6.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 (1.860)
>>>>  7.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 (1.942)
>>>>  8.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 (2.024)
>>>>  9.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 (5.086)
>>>> 10.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 (16.891)
>>>> 11.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (41.424)
>>>> 12.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (94.654)
>>>>463.9
>>>> 13.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (132.293)
>>>>497.3
>>>> 14.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (245.124)
>>>>505.4
>>>> 15.01   0:00    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (359.203)
>>>>533.7
>>>> 16.01   0:01    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (714.937)
>>>>593.8
>>>> 17.01   0:02    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (1.212.436)
>>>>570.2
>>>> 18.01   0:02    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (1.729.490)
>>>>585.4
>>>> 19.01   0:05    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (3.025.316)
>>>>605.0
>>>> 20.01   0:08    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (4.700.415)
>>>>587.5
>>>> 21.01   0:15    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (9.323.868)
>>>>621.5
>>>> 22.01   0:29    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (16.881.247)
>>>>582.1
>>>> 23.01   0:48    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (28.659.953)
>>>>597.0
>>>> 24.01   1:36    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8 (56.472.536)
>>>>588.2
>>>> 25.01   3:37    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(127.308.632) 586.6
>>>> 26.01   7:41    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(275.114.597) 596.7
>>>> 27.01  17:31    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(622.179.104) 591.9
>>>> 28.01  45:16    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(1.602.666.536) 590.0
>>>> 29.01  80:46    0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(-1452508008) 586.5
>>>> 30.01  161:28   0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(1.397.948.590) 587.6
>>>> 31.01  513:07   0.00   1.h3 h6 2.h4 h5 3.g3 g6 4.Rh3 Rh6 5.Rh1 Rh8
>>>>(471.878.568) 573.3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually 30 ply was reached after 2:41 hours.
>>>>
>>>>SW: no search extensions, normal nullmove pruning, normal quiescence
>>>>    search
>>>>HW: 2xCeleron 466 MHz, 500 MByte Hash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone do better?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rudolf
>>>
>>>h3?  Amazing.  Now we all know why computers use opening books!  :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Slate
>>
>>  I think you misunderstood him. He said 'material only', which means that the
>>program choses the first move it generates and sticks to it unless it sees it's
>>losing material. 'h3' is just a move that doesn't lose material in 30 plies.
>>There are a lot of others, but the program doesn't mind, since he thinks they
>>all are worth the same.
>>
>>  José C.
>
>I think that Slate was joking.
>see the ) in the end of the line.
>
>Uri

Yes.  Bad attempt I suppose.  :)


Slate



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