Author: Graham Laight
Date: 01:27:31 06/05/01
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On June 04, 2001 at 19:00:55, Landon Rabern wrote: >On June 04, 2001 at 18:48:40, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>On June 04, 2001 at 17:44:56, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On June 04, 2001 at 16:03:36, John Hatcher wrote: >>> >>>>Here is a news report today from Reuters which may be of interest: >>>> >>>>********************************************************** >>>> >>>>(Reuters) >>>> >>>>Scottish University Sets Up First Chess Doctorate >>>> >>>>EDINBURGH, Scotland (Reuters) - A Scottish university is setting up the world's >>>>first chess doctorate which its creator hopes will lead to the development of >>>>supercomputers capable of beating even the greatest of grandmasters. >>>> >>>>``My computers will be as clever as 1,000 Einsteins,'' course director Peter >>>>Vas, professor of artificial intelligence at Scotland's Aberdeen University, >>>>told Reuters Monday. >>>> >>>>A keen chess player himself, Vas is looking for around 40 graduates for the >>>>three-year PhD course, which also aims to push back the boundaries of artificial >>>>intelligence, creating computers that can think and learn by themselves. >>>> >>>>He hopes former Russian world chess champion Garry Kasparov will become a >>>>lecturer. >>>> >>>>Only the brainiest need bother applying -- prospective candidates must be highly >>>>proficient at math and computing and be in the top flight of their national >>>>chess rankings. >>>> >>>>``There will be a grandmaster entrance exam,'' Vas said, although he denied >>>>reports that they had to beat the grandmaster in a game to get in. >>>> >>>>``Obviously we can't ask for them to beat a grandmaster because if it was >>>>Kasparov playing 100 people simultaneously, he would still beat them all,'' Vas >>>>said. ``Just showing the potential will be enough.'' >>>> >>>>Vas said the new supercomputers would have the combined intelligence of the >>>>world's finest human minds. >>>> >>>>However, they would not live up to the apocalyptic fantasies of some Hollywood >>>>film directors and get so smart they tried to destroy humanity. >>>> >>>>``An intelligent thing will always stop short of destroying itself,'' Vas said. >>>>``There's no chance of that happening.'' >>>> >>>>Even Kasparov, who has met tough electronic challengers in IBM's 'Deep Blue' and >>>>its bigger, better cousin 'Deeper Blue', stands to gain. >>>> >>>>``Playing something better than him will help him improve his game,'' Vas said. >>>>******************* >>>>END >>> >>> >>> >>>The tone and the content sound like an April 1st joke. >>> >>> >>>"Only the brainiest need bother applying -- prospective candidates must be >>>highly proficient at math and computing and be in the top flight of their >>>national chess rankings." >>> >>> >>>What a major mistake. Strong chess players are not the people of choice to >>>create a strong chess computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>Well then this is where your wrong human chess players are the only beings who >>are capabale to see the positional moves better then the programs of today will >>And i do not think that keeping the same course of programing ever will be able >>to see the positional moves (a combining with neural networks shall be an >>extremely improvement for positional moves and planning >>Today many people still think that every opening is just playable I already >>showed many times that this is not the case >>Even many openingsbooks from programs contain these mistakes >>Then again I have seen programs of today ruin winning positions >>and even where glad to draw that winning position. >> >> >>For the matter tactical moves are moves wich capture a piece,threaten to capture >>a piece giving check ,threaten to give check mate,threaten to give mate. >>giving pat threaten to give pat >> >>positional moves are moves wich are the moves when there is nothing to do and >>enable a tactical move (Tarrasch). > >I have done some testing will a neural network evaluation in my program for my >independent study. The biggest problem I ran into was the slowness of >calculating all the sigmoids(I actually used tanh(NET)). It drastically cuts >down the nps and gets spanked by my handcrafted eval. I got moderate results >playing with set ply depths no set time controls, but that isn't saying much. > >Regards, > >Landon W. Rabern It is my personal experience (outside of chess) that when you have what looks like an insoluble intelligence problem, you can effectively attack it by combining different AI tools, rather than relying on a single one. For example, in chess, you might use CBR as the over-arching method, NNs to classify positions, GAs to create evaluation functions within classifications etc. -g
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