Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:24:09 06/05/01
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On June 04, 2001 at 23:16:07, Mark Young wrote:
>On June 04, 2001 at 22:37:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On June 04, 2001 at 11:08:11, Mark Young wrote:
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>>>On June 04, 2001 at 10:34:36, Slater Wold wrote:
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>>>>This is the annotated game by Petr. Look like Mark was correct, 10...Bxf3 was
>>>>the correct move as well as 10...Be6 or 10...Bh5. Shredder was lost, bottom
>>>>line.
>>>
>>>I can't be wrong all the time:)
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>>I doubt that _one_ move lost the game. It was the _group_ of bad moves that
>>made it hopeless.. Against a good GM you can't toss a tempi here, a tempi
>>there, and expect to do anything but get tossed overboard yourself. :)
>>
>>Of course, the computers are all super-GM players, so this discussion really
>>is _not_ happening. :)
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>Who said "all" computers are super-GM players. :)
>
>The only computers that "could" try and claim that they are Super-GM Players are
>Deep Blue, and Deep Junior. We will have to wait and see what Fritz 7 can do.
>
>Many programs are GM strength(> 2500 elo), but Super-GM...I don't think so
>either.
"many"??? Shredder has beaten them all in the last couple of major events.
Do you think _it_ is a >2500 player after looking at the above game?
I'm not going to argue the point as it is a pretty hopeless thing to do. But
so long as computers play like the above, I don't think any reasonable human
will ever say "that is a >2500 player."
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>>>>[Event "ICC 30 10 u"]
>>>>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>>>>[Date "2001.06.02"]
>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>[White "Petrovich"]
>>>>[Black "Project"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2498"]
>>>>[BlackElo "2523"]
>>>>[Opening "QGD: exchange, positional line, 5...c6"]
>>>>[ECO "D35"]
>>>>[NIC "QO.16"]
>>>>[Time "09:05:56"]
>>>>[TimeControl "1800+10"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 c6 6. e3 h6
>>>>(6...Be7 or 6...Bf5!? ) 7. Bh4 Be7 8.
>>>>Bd3 O-O 9. Nf3 Bg4(9....Nbd7+= , i think h7-h6 was unnecessary move)
>>>>10. h3 Bc8? (10..Bxf3 11.Qxf3+=; 10...Bh5 11.g4!?; 10...Be6+=) 11. Qc2 Bd6?
>>>>(11...Nbd7, 12...Re8, 13....Nf8)
>>>> 12. Ne5 Qe7 13. f4 White is clear better . Qd8
>>>>(Black has no good choice ) 14. O-O Be7
>>>>15. Rae1 Nbd7 16. g4 Nb6 17. Qg2 Be6? 18. Bb1 Re8 19. Qc2 Kf8 20. g5
>>>>white has decisive advantage
>>>>Bxh3 21.
>>>>gxf6 Bxf6 22. Bxf6 Qxf6 23. Rf3 Qh4 24. Qf2!
>>>>( there are no chances for black in queenless position :)
>>>> Qxf2+ 25. Kxf2 Bc8 26. Rg3 f6
>>>>27. Ng6+ Kf7 28. b3 a5 29. a4 Bd7 30. f5!
>>>>(xg7 is a weakest point ) Nc8 31. Reg1 Rg8 32. Nf4 Nd6 33.
>>>>Nh5 Ne8 34. Bd3 Kf8 35. e4 dxe4 36. Bc4 Rh8 37. Nxg7 Nd6 38. Ne6+ Bxe6 39.
>>>>Bxe6 e3+ 40. Kxe3 Re8 41. Ne4 Rxe6 42. fxe6 Nf5+ 43. Kf4 Nxg3 44. Rxg3 h5
>>>>45. Nxf6 h4 46. Rh3 Ke7 47. Ke5 {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>Enjoy. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Slate
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