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Subject: Re: A open challenge to those that think computers are only 2100-22000

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 14:44:23 06/05/01

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On June 05, 2001 at 17:28:29, william penn wrote:

>On June 05, 2001 at 16:08:39, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On June 05, 2001 at 15:45:19, william penn wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have an account on icc running on a athlon 1000, i will play a six game match
>>>against any who wants to get quirrely, i am telling you to 'jump".
>>>
>>> TO THE GUY THAT CREATED THE CM SETTING, I AM CALLING YOU OUT, I WANT YOU TO
>>>SHOW US PUBLICLY THE 30 % YOU BOAST ABOUT. JUST SENT ME AN EMAIL AND WE CAN SET
>>>UP THE TIME AND PUBLISH THE GAMES HERE, I WILL BE USING DEEP FRITZ6
>>
>>Interesting challenge.  You may want to think about mandating someway to
>>ensure you are playing the person and not a computer or computer assisted
>>person.  The time control is important, at fast time controls, I can easily
>>ambush a program in a short match, I suggest 40/2.  Finally, I suggest you
>>require proof of a rating.  A "current" rating is needed, many people sandbag
>>their ratings (USCF has discussed this at length).
>>
>>I am sure I have missed a lot, so be careful.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>
>
>>Chris Carson
>
> Aginst deepfritz preparation is irrelevant unless your atleast 2500, but i am
>speaking to these experts who are saying they can beat the computers 30 percent,
>i think the grandmasters have more sense then this, having played hundreds of
>games like kaspy and kramnick, note kaspy knows what they can do, as well as
>kramnik, kaspy dodged the frankfurt tourney, showing computers respect, whereas
>in the past he took on all comers, kramnnik needs three months to prepare, and
>this is all for according to hyatt international master level computers, how
>stupid can a person be, not to see how rediculous this is??????
>A PHD is this dumb. the problem with so-called brilliant people is that they
>lack common sense.

William,

I may disagree with Dr. Hyatt, however, I think he is a smart man.  He
has his resons and is entitled to his opinion.  For me, an opposing
opinion is not "stupid" even if I do not agree with the logic or reasons
the person holds those opinions.  I have been intolerant of other points
of view in the past and that usually leads to conflict and sometimes I
realize that I might have been wrong, but the damage has already been done.
Who knows, maybe soon someone will find a way to beat the programs 60% or
more of the time for any 2100 player or lower rating.  I do not think so,
but in an infinite universe...   ;)

Best of luck with your challenge.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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