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Subject: Re: A open challenge to those that think computers are only 2100-22000

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:06:21 06/05/01

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On June 05, 2001 at 17:36:48, John Dahlem wrote:

>On June 05, 2001 at 17:28:29, william penn wrote:
>
>>On June 05, 2001 at 16:08:39, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 2001 at 15:45:19, william penn wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have an account on icc running on a athlon 1000, i will play a six game match
>>>>against any who wants to get quirrely, i am telling you to 'jump".
>>>>
>>>> TO THE GUY THAT CREATED THE CM SETTING, I AM CALLING YOU OUT, I WANT YOU TO
>>>>SHOW US PUBLICLY THE 30 % YOU BOAST ABOUT. JUST SENT ME AN EMAIL AND WE CAN SET
>>>>UP THE TIME AND PUBLISH THE GAMES HERE, I WILL BE USING DEEP FRITZ6
>>>
>>>Interesting challenge.  You may want to think about mandating someway to
>>>ensure you are playing the person and not a computer or computer assisted
>>>person.  The time control is important, at fast time controls, I can easily
>>>ambush a program in a short match, I suggest 40/2.  Finally, I suggest you
>>>require proof of a rating.  A "current" rating is needed, many people sandbag
>>>their ratings (USCF has discussed this at length).
>>>
>>>I am sure I have missed a lot, so be careful.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>>Chris Carson
>>
>> Aginst deepfritz preparation is irrelevant unless your atleast 2500, but i am
>>speaking to these experts who are saying they can beat the computers 30 percent,
>>i think the grandmasters have more sense then this, having played hundreds of
>>games like kaspy and kramnick, note kaspy knows what they can do, as well as
>>kramnik, kaspy dodged the frankfurt tourney, showing computers respect, whereas
>>in the past he took on all comers, kramnnik needs three months to prepare, and
>>this is all for according to hyatt international master level computers, how
>>stupid can a person be, not to see how rediculous this is??????
>>A PHD is this dumb. the problem with so-called brilliant people is that they
>>lack common sense.
>
>
>Do you realize Hyatt has spent a large portion of his life in computer chess,
>and is probably a good authority on these matters (better, even, than you)? I
>believe he said around 2400 elo anyway, that is very strong, and not far at all
>from GM.  I think a 2400 elo player has good chances against GMs, especially if
>they do not do anything to neutralize his great tactical ability.  One problem
>with computers is that just about any GM can beat them if they take the time to
>study anti-computer techniques.

I do not believe in it.

Rebel beated a GM in a 6 game match so not
every GM can beat them by anti-computer techniques.

Uri



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