Author: william penn
Date: 15:24:37 06/05/01
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On June 05, 2001 at 18:00:30, Chris Carson wrote: >On June 05, 2001 at 17:49:38, william penn wrote: > >>On June 05, 2001 at 17:41:53, william penn wrote: >> >>>On June 05, 2001 at 17:36:48, John Dahlem wrote: >>> >>>>On June 05, 2001 at 17:28:29, william penn wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 05, 2001 at 16:08:39, Chris Carson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 05, 2001 at 15:45:19, william penn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an account on icc running on a athlon 1000, i will play a six game match >>>>>>>against any who wants to get quirrely, i am telling you to 'jump". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TO THE GUY THAT CREATED THE CM SETTING, I AM CALLING YOU OUT, I WANT YOU TO >>>>>>>SHOW US PUBLICLY THE 30 % YOU BOAST ABOUT. JUST SENT ME AN EMAIL AND WE CAN SET >>>>>>>UP THE TIME AND PUBLISH THE GAMES HERE, I WILL BE USING DEEP FRITZ6 >>>>>> >>>>>>Interesting challenge. You may want to think about mandating someway to >>>>>>ensure you are playing the person and not a computer or computer assisted >>>>>>person. The time control is important, at fast time controls, I can easily >>>>>>ambush a program in a short match, I suggest 40/2. Finally, I suggest you >>>>>>require proof of a rating. A "current" rating is needed, many people sandbag >>>>>>their ratings (USCF has discussed this at length). >>>>>> >>>>>>I am sure I have missed a lot, so be careful. >>>>>> >>>>>>Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Chris Carson >>>>> >>>>> Aginst deepfritz preparation is irrelevant unless your atleast 2500, but i am >>>>>speaking to these experts who are saying they can beat the computers 30 percent, >>>>>i think the grandmasters have more sense then this, having played hundreds of >>>>>games like kaspy and kramnick, note kaspy knows what they can do, as well as >>>>>kramnik, kaspy dodged the frankfurt tourney, showing computers respect, whereas >>>>>in the past he took on all comers, kramnnik needs three months to prepare, and >>>>>this is all for according to hyatt international master level computers, how >>>>>stupid can a person be, not to see how rediculous this is?????? >>>>>A PHD is this dumb. the problem with so-called brilliant people is that they >>>>>lack common sense. >>>> >>>> >>>>Do you realize Hyatt has spent a large portion of his life in computer chess, >>>>and is probably a good authority on these matters (better, even, than you)? I >>>>believe he said around 2400 elo anyway, that is very strong, and not far at all >>>>from GM. I think a 2400 elo player has good chances against GMs, especially if >>>>they do not do anything to neutralize his great tactical ability. One problem >>>>with computers is that just about any GM can beat them if they take the time to >>>>study anti-computer techniques. >>>> >>>>John >>> >>> >>>Yes i realize he is a computer scientist, but he is not God, and contrary to >>>alot of people here, i beg to disagree with him, at hest he is a MEDIOCRY >>>PROGRAMMER. Crafty has never been number one in anything. Cray Blitz has never >>>won a world computer championship. NONE >> >> >> Sorry i accidently hit the submit key before i was finsihed, anyone back to >>hyatt, what has he accomplished in computer chess, other than making a program >>freely availabe to the public, and answering questions on RGCC, yet you would >>think by the responses of people here that he was the world's best programmer, >>he is just a little man with a huge ego. IF you want to mention some good >>programmers than mention hzu and richard lang, ed shoeder, christopher theron, >>amir ban, these guys have won something, yet they are too modest to stand out >>like hyatt who has done nothing. OH i forgot the programmer of shredder. > >Crafty has won some tournament, Shep has published tournament wins >and rating lists such as SSDF and Frank's page show crafty to be strong >against other programs. Crafty also won an event against humans (college >team) some years back, but I could never get the PGN's. It was reported in >Chess Life. Believe me, I would love to add these games to my list, I think >Crafty may have scored over 2500 against rated players on a PPro200. Anyone >have these or can you quote the actual results against average rating? > >Cray Blitz won the World Computer Chess Championship in 1983 and 1986. > >Dr. Hyatt has published many articles on chess programming. > >I may disagree with Dr. Hyatt from time to time, but I also have to >admire his accomplishments. :) > >Best Regards, >Chris Carson i DON'T think it has anything to do with accomplishment's, i think what sums it up is the old chinese proverb says whoever speaks the loudest, is the one most often heard. HYATT
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