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Subject: Re: Time to re-start discussion? Has there been any real progress in last

Author: Chessfun

Date: 17:21:09 06/05/01

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On June 04, 2001 at 09:35:41, Rajen Gupta wrote:

>On June 04, 2001 at 08:57:09, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On June 04, 2001 at 08:28:43, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>1/2/(5) years? Yes, if we remove benefit from better hardware, what is left??
>>>Any real improvement is playing level of top engines. 5 points from Nalimov
>>>may be?!
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>  I think you cannot remove benefit from better hardware, because most
>>programmer adapt to new hardware to get better programs. For example, a lot of
>>programs have become SMP. This has happend because multiprocessor machines have
>>become cheaper, so it is a hardware improvement that leads to software
>>improvement.
>>  Besides that, you can chose your favourite program and compare versions. Let's
>>say Fritz. Compare strength of versions 4.01, 5.32, 6, Deep Fritz. I think you
>>can answer your own question, can't you?
>>
>>  José C.
>
>i'm not sure: see my previous post. get the chessbase engines to play each other
>from an individual copy of the same opening book-you'll be surprised at the lack
>of any difference in engine strength.i'm planning to play the 2 tigers vs j5,
>f5.32 and f6 light, all from individual copies of the same opening book(tiger
>book).also going to play f5.16 vs f4 vs h6)if there is no significant difference
>in playing strength between them (i have a suspicion that it might be the case)
>then i'll probably stop buying newer programmes.
>
>inmo 95% of the so-called increse in strength is purely the result of better
>opening books, book learning functions, access to endgametables and tuning
>against the immediate predecessor programmes.
>
>i doubt one would get a better analysis of a data base from the newer programmes
>
>rajen

I didn't read the rest of this thread but a while back I did
something like this and IMO the differences are clear.
http://www.geocities.com/chessfun_1999/FvJ.html
http://www.geocities.com/chessfun_1999/FvJ2.html

Sarah.






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