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Subject: Re: Is Deep Fritz running in a 8 procesor machine, stronger than Deep Blue ?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 08:24:49 06/06/01

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On June 06, 2001 at 09:29:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 06, 2001 at 08:44:25, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2001 at 04:22:34, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hi to all!
>>>
>>>I have 2 questions.
>>>
>>>The match against GM Robert Huebner will be very interesting! and i think that
>>>it will be like a preparation for the match against World Champion Kramnik.
>>>
>>>
>>>But what kind of machine will use Deep Fritz for the match against Huebner??
>>>and how many time will be the games??
>>>
>>>
>>>Also, Somebody know what kind of machine will use Deep Fritz to play against
>>>Kramnik???
>>>
>>>  I can“t see any information about the -kind of machines they will use (Mhz,
>>>Ram? etc)in the Chessbase page.
>>>
>>>Too, i believe that Deep Fritz is a bit better, (running in 8 procesor machine)
>>>than Deep Blue 97 version...(the same that won against Kasparov)   Is this
>>>right?
>>>
>>>I need that Chessbase will need a lot of hard work! if they want to repeat like
>>>IBM did against Kasparov in 1997. Anyway i think that it is very very difficult
>>>that it happen again.  It will be a Dream!
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks...
>>>
>>>Best Regards!
>>>
>>>
>>>Tanya
>>>    Deborah.
>>
>>
>>I thought only two questions?;-)
>>
>>Well I can answer _One_ question with over a 99% probability of bieng correct!
>>Deep Blue of 1997 would demolish DeepFritz7 on a 8 processor machine regardless
>>of of Mhz/Ghz per cpu and cache of today.
>
>99% of being correct.
>I do not know how did you get this conclusion.
>
>My impression from looking at the logfiles of deep blue is different.
>
>I believe that Deep Fritz is slightly better.
>
>Here is a possible test that may be interesting to do.
>
>1)take all the positions that deeper blue analyzed in the games Deeper
>blue-kasparov(position when deep blue to move and positions when Deeper blue
>pondered and not pondered correctly)
>2)Give Deep Fritz 24 hours to calculate these positions.
>3)Delete all the positions when Deep Fritz does not suggest Deep blue's move
>after 24 hours because we do not know which program of the two is right.
>4)compare the time that Deep Fritz needed to find the move with the time that
>Deeper blue needed to find the move in the games against kasparov.
>
>Uri

Hey, Uri I may be wrong? However I don't have the necessary hardware to do your
test.
I will tell you that _I_ have put DeepFritz6 away in a Sicilian Dragon in only
24 moves.
The reason is simple, it was a game in 25 min., I was White and DeepFritz didn't
"understand" the position. Also it was running on a single processor of only
500Mhz.
I don't have the game score or I'd produce it. But it died in a classical K-Side
attack.
I couldn't do that to Deeper Blue of 1997. Not by a longshot!

Regards,
 Terry



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