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Subject: Re: If you want a good Idea of what is needed to Beat Kramnik .....

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 14:56:52 06/06/01

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It's not necessary to be that much more powerful.

For example, if, in the worst position, the computer needs 10 minutes to find a
better move, you'll probably find that if it had been given 5 mins per move for
the other positions, it would never have put itself in the position with the
potential for the mistake in the first place.

On the other hand, if a computer simply doesn't understand what it's doing
wrong, no amount of time will help.

-g

On June 06, 2001 at 13:59:25, Joshua Lee wrote:

>Take All important games against humans where the computer lost, Let the program
>analyze untill it finds the better moves note how much time and which processor
>you used and start dividing untill the time gets close to 180 seconds , note how
>many times you divided and by what number preferably 2 or 3 and when you have a
>raw number divide that by 5.9  and you have your answer   for example : Deep
>Fritz Played against Germany and lost, the hardware was a dual 800 or roughly
>1.360Ghz I have Fritz 6 so this will not be exact but i have heard that DF is
>around twice as fast as F6 on the same hardware but that isn't too important
>unless you are wondering how fast you would need for fritz 6.  Deep Fritz used 1
>hour for it's moves it was lost around move 33 so you let fritz sit on previous
>moves untill it finds an improvement and you note how much time it needs and
>viola. Now this does seem very time consuming and it is as you have this game
>the two from the dutch championship, and the hour game against Boris Alterman if
>you have a fast enough computer you will see that there DF doesn't run on enough
>processors to aviod similar situations if it had a unix or linux counterpart
>than Chessbase should put it on a Compaq SC series with 512 Alpha's running at
>833Mhz each , These pups are faster than a 1.7Ghz P4 the new Xeon's may be as
>fast if not a little faster but unless you beowolfed them they are only
>available in dual versions.
>
>a 512 Processor version would be around 610Ghz and Search 6Ply deeper than your
>avarage 800Mhz Computer



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