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Subject: Re: Deep Blue/IBM vs. Gary

Author: Doody Ungson

Date: 19:15:27 04/22/98

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First of.. I do agree with Rob. Deep Blue's development which spanned
about 6 to 8 years was a awesome project in the sense that it was funded
with enough megabucks by IBM to prove that if cost was no object, a
corporation can assemble the best team (scientists, programmers and
grandmasters) fund them adequately and design the machine with the
latest most advanced hardware and beat the best chess player in the
world at his own game.

2- IBM did hint even before the 1st match in Philadelphia that
ultimately, it was going to use the "intelligent" algorithms to develop
similar machines to solve real world problems. This was widely
advertised and even openly expressed by the Deep Blue Team. In other
words, there was definitely a commercial bottom line motive for this
Herculean effort.

3. Thirdly, I read just after the match that the Deep Blue Machine was
actually sold to an anonymous buyer. I surmise that - this buyer did not
use the machine to play and promote chess but probably was modified for
commercial value purposes.

4. Rob is most likely right. IBM's sole purpose was to beat Gary
Kasparov in an even match - neither side having an advantage vs. the
other. - in standard tournament time controls. Since Deep Blue already
won the match. There is nothing else to prove. What this whole
experiment proved was that with enough megabucks, one can develop a
commercially viable machine to solve real world problems as complex as
chess problems. So IBM is moving forward in its development. I doubt
whether IBM will invest more money in this technology just to play and
develop chess.

5. On Deep Blue's rating- I wish most of you would read the latest books
on Deep Blue vs. Kasparov  (i.e. one is written by a chess instructor
Bruce Pandolfini). Gary Kasparov was definitely playing his hardest to
WIN. As the previous TIME MAGAZINE article wrote about the match. He was
playing to prove that MAN was still superior. The machine especially on
all the drawn games found the proper combinations and moves to MATCH
Gary's best skills. Even the best Grandmasters following and analyzing
the game were not accurate in their analysis because Deep Blue at times
was playing equal or beyond Gary's rating - definitely above anyone
else.  Gary tried his hardest to win- throwing his best shots and Deep
Blue with its enormous crunching power and of course a good chess
program matched his chess skills move by move. Deep Blue was definitely
playing at Gary's peak strength. The reason Gary lost was because of
exhaustion. Period. That is the only explanation. Since Deep Blue never
gets tired, it definitely has an edge over the world's TOP grandmasters-
ANAND, KARPOV. Whoever plays it- 6 games or more.

6. On micros i.e. Pentium II 400 Mhz. ..It will be interesting. I think
Deep Blue has still an edge 100 to 150 points. In the 6 game match, Deep
Blue unlike the best commercial programs running with the best hardware,
found ways to neutralize Gary's attempts to control the center position.
It was definitely playing TOP GRANDMASTER STRENGHT. Most, if not all the
best chess PC programs would have succumbed to Gary's very aggressive
style during this match.



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