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Subject: Re: Is Deep Fritz running in a 8 procesor machine, stronger than Deep Blue ?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 20:05:55 06/06/01

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On June 06, 2001 at 20:11:57, Jesper Antonsson wrote:

>On June 06, 2001 at 06:31:03, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2001 at 04:22:34, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>
>>>Too, i believe that Deep Fritz is a bit better, (running in 8 procesor machine)
>>>than Deep Blue 97 version...(the same that won against Kasparov)   Is this
>>>right?
>>
>>The truth is the no-one _really_ knows, and everybody who posts
>>a claim here is just guessing.
>>
>>I do think it's reasonable to say (i.e. I'm just guessing too)
>>that Deep Blue had more knowledge, although that of Fritz is
>>probably better tuned. Tactically DB was extremely sound because
>>they did no pruning, but Fritz will be outsearching it in raw plies,
>>but those are riskier.
>>
>>The conclusion of that is that well, I don't know. And neither
>>does anyone else.
>
>Well, IBM had a a couple of really bright academics that worked many years
>full time on the problem, with additional support from IBM staff and a good
>grandmaster to do opening preparation. They could do complex eval essentially
>for free in hardware and still reach 200M nps average case. Sure, they did
>not do null-move (I assume that this is what you refer to as "pruning"), but
>they probably had good reasons to.
>
>I think it is safe to assume that an 8M nps (or whatever they get
>from the 8-way combo) Fritz machine can't touch DBs strength. I doubt Fritz
>would be better even given equal NPS, which is perhaps 6 years away or more.
>So, in 2007, when 10 years has passed since DBs last match, we *might* have
>a new computer combo that matches DBs strength, but probably not before that.
>I agree we don't *know*, but this is a reasonable guess.
>
>Jesper

Good Post! I quite agree! Altough at equal NPS I think it would be very
interesting to watch:-)

Terry



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