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Subject: Re: What seems to be forgotten in the Fritz - Kramnik match

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 21:06:25 06/06/01

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On June 06, 2001 at 18:58:10, Chuck wrote:

>On June 06, 2001 at 07:26:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2001 at 06:58:28, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>...is that Fritz played the Dutch open just last year, on a quad,
>>>and it didn't win, it didn't even got second. It got _third_, and
>>>this while several players forfeited vs it in protest.
>>>
>>>We're only one year of development further now, and the hardware
>>>will be twice as fast, *no more*. Not even a ply more for Fritzie.
>>>
>>>The Dutch are pretty ok as far as chess is concerned, but it's
>>>not like they have any players that are remotely as strong as
>>>Kramnik.
>>>
>>>It was not in the top 2 of Dutch players, and now it is supposed
>>>to stand a chance vs. the World Champion? Uhh, well maybe if he
>>>gets sick or crazy or something.
>>
>>It is clear that Deep Fritz has no chance against Kramnik.
>>
>>Nobody expects Fritz to win.
>>
>>I guess that most people are not going to bet that Fritz is going to beat
>>Kramnik even if they can earn 100$ for winning and lose 1$ for losing.
>>
>>Fritz is public and it is unfair.
>>
>>A secret program when Kramnik know nothing about it may have chances but noy
>>Fritz.
>>
>
>I do not agree with these statements. Kramnik is not "secret", the programmers
>can book up against every move he has ever played and can resort to analysis
>from human grandmasters to improve on their program's ideas as well. Kramnik
>deserves the same chance for the match to be fair.
>
>The program does not necessarily have to be commercial, but should have played
>several hundred publicly available games.
>
>Regards,
>
>Chuck

Deeper blue did not play hundreds publicly available games so
if we want to compare between deeper blue and another program we need something
similiar.

I prefer to see unfair match before seeing fair match and if kramnik can beat
the program in an unfair match then there is no point to do fair match.

Uri



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