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Subject: Re: Fernando Villegas should have advised Mr. Burgess.

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 11:37:27 06/07/01

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On June 07, 2001 at 14:20:46, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On June 06, 2001 at 21:27:48, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>Chris:
>>Yes, of course, some info too, but the degree of it depends of the issue, the
>>importance it has, etc. Clearly Burgess does not think computer chess deserves
>>some much attention and care with technical aspects of any kind more than that
>>he offered. Besides he must think in what readers want to read. The journalist
>>is not writting for an specific public, but for a mass public where all kind of
>>expertisse or lack of it pay the cent to get the newspaper. Average reader gives
>> a shit about chess computers and so if you ever are going to interest him about
>>something of this field, it will be trough the sort of thing Burgess wrote. I
>>would consider Burgess not a talented man, as clearly he is, but a pedant and an
>>idiot if he ever was going to write about hash tables to that public.
>
>
>
>I wouldn't be surprised that you assume, as I am deep into the technical areas
>of computer chess, that I am blaming the journalist for not giving technical
>details such as processor, hash tables, search algorithms, and so on...


No, no and no. I know you are not a dude.

>
>But it's not the case.
>
>Listen, when I participate in human tournaments here, with Chess Tiger for Palm
>for example, I have to face a hundred times per day the same basic questions. In
>this case I'm able to answer to the people without saying any technical word.
>
>You can say a lot of interesting things without boring the readers with
>technical words.
>
>You could for example answer the most basic questions people ask over and over
>again.


Yes, but perhaps you miss a point: Burgess was not trying to explain how
computer chess is, with or without techical words, but just talking of his game
againts a chess program. Rhat is the core of his story.

>
>Here is the most frequently asked question I have to answer 20 times a day when
>my program makes a public appearance: "so you have programmed all the possible
>chess positions into your computer?".
>
>I also believe that the general audience is not computer-illiterate any more,
>and a few explanation related to what people already know cannot hurt.

Right, It could have been done. But the fact he chose not to does not makes of
his article a shit, as many people here say it is.

 For
>example the guy could have said that this Fritz was much more powerful than a PC
>because it was using a computer which is composed of 8 PCs working together.
>
>
>
>
>>In fact, that's the kind of mistakes beginners journalist makes: they try to
>>"teach"; they try to deliver too much. So they bore everybody but himself and
>>two geeks.
>
>
>
>I think another basic mistake is to disgust the audience from a topic. That's
>what this article does. The bottom line is: "computers are unbeatable at chess,
>so who cares about this game anymore".


I am sure people was not disgusted. I was not, Tim F. was not and other guys
here were not. And we are, in a degree, part of this community of savvy people.
You can bet the article liked, outside this place, a lot more of people.
>
>It would have been more constructive to mention that while the computer programs
>are strong when they run on fast computers, they still have some major
>weaknesses. And that on slow computers they are not that strong.
>
>I guess this is too technical?

No, no. Even I can understand that.
>
>>So a last point: journalism is not about writting about what you really know,
>>but to write to people that does not know and have no reasons to know. So you
>>give them the little drop you can and you have.
>>What else?
>
>
>
>Give some accurate informations maybe?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

Well, at last he have had our yearly fight. Soft, but good for stretching the
arms...:-)
Fernando



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