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Subject: Re: Best testsuite (sure it's not WAC)

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 13:27:20 06/07/01

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On June 07, 2001 at 13:14:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 07, 2001 at 12:33:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On June 07, 2001 at 10:52:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 07, 2001 at 06:41:44, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 07, 2001 at 05:52:51, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes I know all test suites are almost useless to finds the best playing chess
>>>>>software. But still, which suite is the less bad in your opinion? If You can
>>>>>only use one test suite before starting real games, which suite will you select?
>>>>>Is it still LCT II?
>>>>
>>>>Following Bruce Moreland's recommendations, I'd have to name ECM.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't like ECM as it has _way_ too many errors.  The "modified" version
>>>might be reasonable.
>>
>>I don't see why the errors matter.  So I fail on those, big deal.  If I run WAC,
>>I get the same number every time.  If I run ECM with more time, I'll find more
>>solutions.  To me this means that if I make the program better, I'll find more
>>of them, which is what the suite is supposed to show.  The suite has 879
>>positions.  I think that well over 700 of them can be found, although I don't
>>have an exact number.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>I don't like getting "better" and then getting more wrong answers.  Or getting
>worse and getting more "right" answers.  The ones that are wrong are really
>wrong.  And it is certainly possible to make your program stronger and suddenly
>start getting the wrong answers rather than the right ones.
>
>IE it is like grading a test with a key that randomly gets changed without
>your knowing...
>
>I thought that was the reason we spent so much time going over the thing and
>excluding obviously bad positions?

Just out of curiousity, how long do the longest (and correct) solutions take?

                                  Albert



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